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 TippyCup
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 Re: Will my two year shut-out in GGP end?  [Re: auweia]
#13442927 - 11/06/10 11:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was a wonderful feeling finally finding those. In the future I will probably hardly do any picking; for me as for many of you, most of the fun is in the hunt. These 4 little ones did become breakfast however, and became a way for me to both respect the fungi and congratulate my success. It's been three years since I started keeping a keen eye for these and now I feel the gates will open like the eyes finally did. 3 years and nothing, I join here and within 3 days success. Thanks all, the Shroomery was the mycelium beneath my feet.
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 auweia
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Re: Will my two year shut-out in GGP end? [Re: TippyCup]
#13443993 - 11/06/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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day around the bay...pretty much the only good spots i know of fruiting right now. I am surprised this made it through the heatwave so well. I was expecting a lot of blackened and shriveled caps. But only some of them are starting to shrivel and only some may not make it past the next rain, and still some pins coming up
I think it helped that we didn't have a strong dry east wind like we did between storms 2 years ago, just still hot air, and somewhat humid..And despite the heat last week, it didn't do a huge amount of damage
also, another one where cyans and friscosa grow together. This area is going to get much better next week, with some rain...Should be more spots pinning by next week
In the first pic, for example, you can see some shriveling on the caps on the left, while the ones on the right are doing OK..the ones on the left are close to not being able to recover with the next rain
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never_2_high
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Re: Will my two year shut-out in GGP end? [Re: auweia]
#13444137 - 11/06/10 04:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome finds man . Its always cool to look at your pictures.
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Belac
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Re: Will my two year shut-out in GGP end? [Re: never_2_high]
#13444223 - 11/06/10 04:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I live vicariously through you, Auweia.
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FilamentousFungi
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Re: Will my two year shut-out in GGP end? [Re: Belac]
#13444268 - 11/06/10 04:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Auweia-
"Sometimes his pictures can be stronger than the real thing"
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cyanophilus
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Friscosas in Santa Cruz county.
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auweia
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yes sir, it's starting..I'll bet that area in Santa Cruz is pretty thick wood chips. I know that my early spots are very thick. I've been picking there for 5 years and they've dumped more chips on it twice now and in most places it's now 6 inches thick or more and it just keeps getting bigger
I think that's why these spots come up earlier, because the mycelium is really thick underneath and can hold more moisture that way....I stuck my finger down there once and yeah, the mycelium goes down at least 6 inches
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FilamentousFungi
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13444837 - 11/06/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's the oldest patch you know of? How frequently have the woodchips been renewed in that area?
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13444881 - 11/06/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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haven't found any actives in humboldt yet haven't checked any of my spots in a week or so. not much rain up here think ill give it another week to get going.found loads of edibles this past week though chanterelles,lobsters,pigs ears and my favorite boletes my fridge is packed.got tons of good pics but having computer problems but just bought a new one should be up and posting in a few days.
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auweia
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13444883 - 11/06/10 06:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know of a couple places 10 years old at least and they dump wood chips maybe every 3 years
there was a couple of spots in SF that could have been 50 years old or more, but they are long gone having been dug up...they were both in grassy areas, basically fed by huge eucalytpus trees above...those two go back to my earliey days in the 80's but were probably much older, because they had been in that same condition for nearly 100 years
One was in the Presidio in front of the old Letterman Hospital, which now george Lucas Star wars and he dug it all up with backhoes and replaced it with some other grass *spit* *spit*....*ptooooiiii*
and it's never been the same since...but for man many years there was always 100's of cyans every week nearly all winter long...Just judging from the size of it, nearly a football field, it had to be over 20 years old, and might have been 100 years old
But Lucas destoyed it *spit* * spit*....*ptuuuuii*
the other one was in another SF park and they dug all that up too and now it's a frigging doggy park..that was also a 100 year old park and also nearly a football field long
two of the biggest and oldest spots I ever seen and you would need a video to show it...A nice long video maybe 20 minutes
so yes, I've seen the potential of what cyans can do...they can get bigger than a jet airliner (I mean the mycelium, not the fruits)
put it that way
oh also, BTW, that's actually what made me leave the city, because up until then I got everything and then some from inside SF..I had no reason to go further
but since the SF parks and Lucas destroyed those, I've had to go further and hunt further around the bay...that was more than 10 years ago
but it's recovered nicely overall, it just took more work, and more biking and more hunting...now it's a bunch of smaller spots scattered all over, instead of two big ones close by
come to think of it, it's better this way, because relying on two big spots is putting all your eggs in one basket...It's much harder to destroy many different little spots than 2 big ones, so even tho it's more work, it's also much safer and more permanent
that also opened my eyes to the wide variety of habitats that cyans can grow in, so maybe after all it was a good kick in the butt to go off biking in another direction
Edited by auweia (11/06/10 06:54 PM)
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FilamentousFungi
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13444993 - 11/06/10 06:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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The famous spot in Humboldt, south of Eureka has been there since the 70s or 80s, but they aren't contiguous like the ones auwiea spoke of so I can't verify age. I wonder where that dirt was hauled off to from auweia's spots. Since GL stole your spots I will let you know a lil secret...they grow up in the ranch and I know of people who call them "star wars shrooms". I will ask them when they get into town some more specifics.
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auweia
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yeah, they actually took the base grass out...it's asn't like the just bulldozed it and resodded it, they actually removed the top layer and put in a whole new fresh one of lawn grass
one of the problems was that both places it was a really thick crab grass...you can't just take a shovel and try to transplant it, that stuff was like bamboo, man, otherwise I would have tried to transplant at least a little of it..But Lucas replaced it with some rinky dinky dainty lawn grass and who knows if it'll ever come back...Only a very tiny portion of it might have been missed and I've never seen anything there yet
the other thing about being contiguous, yes those were the only two contiguous ones I've ever seen get that big
I do know of other places that are that big now, but not contiguous like that, but rather disjointed...Like a couple of housing complexes like the photos today, where it's nothing but cyans and friscosa for 1/4 mile...
and it probably would be contiguous if it wasn't for the damn asphalt that people need to get to their homes in their cars, streets and sidewalks, annoying barriers to make it one solid jet airliner size patch
in some ways it's almost pointless to say it can get that big, because it still does in certain areas, but you just can't take it all in one photo...it might not be connected, but it's probably the same plant, 50 spots across housing complex, probably all connected by spores, but not directly connected to each other by mycelium
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FilamentousFungi said:
The famous spot in Humboldt, south of Eureka has been there since the 70s or 80s, but they aren't contiguous like the ones auwiea spoke of so I can't verify age. I wonder where that dirt was hauled off to from auweia's spots. Since GL stole your spots I will let you know a lil secret...they grow up in the ranch and I know of people who call them "star wars shrooms". I will ask them when they get into town some more specifics.
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auweia
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13445379 - 11/06/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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here, this is worth a blow up at full res..sharpened it a bit
this is p cyanescens and p cyanofriscosa in the same spot. cyans to the left, friscosa to the right
the problem is that in the middle it gets really messy, where some of them it's hard to tell which is which, so it's not quite like you have cyans and hypholoma growing together
true that cyans and friscosa usually stay separate, but I'm guessing you would have a hell of a time with a DNA sequence on this patch
that's how closely related they are
Edited by auweia (11/06/10 08:21 PM)
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auweia
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13445743 - 11/06/10 09:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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one correction..there is little evidence to support this same spot, but that spot now dug up by George Lucas 10 years ago, may actually be 200 years old
because the Presidio of San Francisco was founded in 1776, the same year this country was founded on the east coast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidio_of_San_Francisco
those eucalyptus trees were planted sometime during that original military occupation, and are now as large as redwoods almost, the same exact trees, near the main post and the border of San Francisco...it's on of the oldest built up parts of the prior military Presidio known to exist
it was a military post up until 10 years ago, so nobody knows how long that spot has been there, since those eucalyptus trees, that are still standing, are about that old...they are giants now..it could be 50 years, 100 years or nearly 200 years...nobody will ever know
and the really sad thing is, nobody will ever be able to prove it, because that organism underneath all that, is not recognized by the USA, and therefore never documented
so we will never know how far back george lucas actually did damage
I was picking in there when the military police were patrolling it...I distinctly remember that
that area of the presidio predates San Francisco itself in most cases, back when it was called "yerba buena" after the Spanish explorers
just in case Lucas could ever get a clue as to the damage he did (he erased 200 years of history right on his front lawn, without even knowing it, out of sheer ignorance)
Edited by auweia (11/06/10 10:36 PM)
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Re: RE: [Re: auweia]
#13445814 - 11/06/10 10:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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My first post, just signed up 30 seconds ago. Hello shroomery community! I'm a San Francisco native but east bay resident most of my life. I've been hunting for 15+ yrs now although I skipped probably half those yrs. Some yrs I'd find a handfull or two and some none at all until the last couple years when I decided to educate myself a little more. I bought a few books and searched around on the internet and always found myself here on this website time after time. This is my long winded way of saying thanks for sharing the knowledge. Last year was so succesfull I was able to make spore prints and transplants to other promising areas. I was even able to start my own colony on some woodchips. They're chilling in my crisper drawer of my fridge hopefully waiting for future transplants I'm enjoying the hell out of all of it. And it's just nice to be out on a bike riding around park to park or whatever. Special thanks to auweia for all the fantastic pics. Especially of the friscosas because I know I've passed these up in the past just because they didn't have the wavy caps. 
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state parks [Re: auweia]
#13448903 - 11/07/10 02:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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are any state parks in southern oregon or northern california that have decent fruitings? can someone direct me to a place close, other than where I and everyone else have been picking (here in humbldt)
i need a couple pounds before seasons over...
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quadracer
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cyankid
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Presidio [Re: auweia]
#13449919 - 11/07/10 06:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi Auweia,
We met many years ago in the spot your talking about that GL took.
Not sure if you remember. At any rate, I see your still up to the same
shenanigans. I'm just getting back into it.
My question was regarding this Scott Red Wood mulch you're always
speaking of. Whenever I see "red wood" mulch (not actual redwood) it
never seems like the type of stuff mushrooms would enjoy.
Do you have a picture of the correct stuff? Maybe a "fresh"
picture (like just laid) and an "aged" picture? at all?
Hell, I can identify mushrooms but I can't identify wood chips?
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scout24
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Re: Presidio [Re: cyankid]
#13450940 - 11/07/10 09:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Porcini pins up in the city today.
  
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