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"The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh
    #1330174 - 02/24/03 02:37 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I bought "The New Revelations" about two weeks ago, and I got about half way through it before I closed it, and decided not to read anymore of it. This book is terrible. Here are three reasons why I give this book only one star.

1) There are no "new revelalations" at all. It's all recycled material from the other books. Some of it is even copied word for word from the other books.

2) Neale plays dumb through the whole book. "God" tells him things that they've discussed over and over in the other books, and Neale acts like it's the first time he's heard any of it. There is no excuse for that.

3) In the previous 5 books, Neale talks in bold print, and "God" talks in regular print. For some reason, it's the other way around in this book. What reason could they possibly have for changing that? It's confusing.

I am a huge fan of the first 5 "Conversations With God" books, but this book is obviously just a money making scheme. I even e-mailed Walsh to tell him myself. This book hurts the credibility of his whole series. I still think it doesn't matter weither Walsh wrote it or not because the paradigm presented in the first five books is the best explanation for life that i've ever read. The first five books blew me away, but this one is pure crap.



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330179 - 02/24/03 02:41 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Thanks for the review!

Since the Literary forum has been eliminated I think it is ok to create threads about books in here.

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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: ]
    #1330264 - 02/24/03 03:36 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

It's a spirituality book anyway.



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330290 - 02/24/03 03:56 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

In Book 1, "God" told Walsh that there were to be THREE books. God is not as omniscient as he used to be, old age and all.

Also from Book 1, "You can have anything that you want as long as you do not want it."

Thanks for that pearl of wisdom.


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330292 - 02/24/03 03:58 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I am a huge fan of the first 5 "Conversations With God" books, but this book is obviously just a money making scheme.

The first five were also a "money-making scheme".


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330366 - 02/24/03 04:40 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

No matter what they were, the first 5 books contained the highest wisdom i've ever seen.



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330431 - 02/24/03 05:06 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

No matter what they were, the first 5 books contained the highest wisdom i've ever seen.



yes they did...


and swami: please stop taking quotes out of context just to present your point of view... reading that can be quite disturbing for someone who hasnt read the rest of the chapter where that quote is explained in detail...


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: In(di)go]
    #1330478 - 02/24/03 05:28 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

(To LearyFan as well)

There is a h-u-g-e difference between being intellectually stimulated by possiblities and words and actualization.

Please name one major thing in your life that you manifested using your newfound knowledge about mind power and creating from Book 1 that you were unable to (and thought impossible) manifest before.

Thank you.


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330591 - 02/24/03 06:17 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I walked the earth aimless before I found those books. Nothing before or since has explained life better than they did. I'm a much better person for it, and therefore the people around me are much better for it.



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330605 - 02/24/03 06:25 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

In other words, you were unable to use the "laws of creation" to manifest anything specific in your life.


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330635 - 02/24/03 06:38 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

well... with the wisdom in that book i have been able to create my life more to my liking... obviously not everything is as i would like it to be, because there is still skepticism in the thoughts i send out to the universe... here are some of the stuff that came in to my life by what you call "coincidence" after starting to apply the wisdom of conversations with god...

i got the job as sound & film technician in the cinema i wanted to work at (even better than what i actually asked for which is a job as a simple projectionist)

i will quit soon because i have to do my social service, and the place im going to do this service at is also everything i wished for...

before reading the books i was looking so badly for a band to give outlet to my creativity... now i have it, and it is even better than i could have imagined...

my girlfriend (yes! it worked out) is the most open-minded, loving, caring and spiritual person i could have ever imagined... beeing with her (although it hasnt been long) is one of the greatest blessings i know...

i know your gonna say that everyone can create things in his life and there is nothing special about it... but most of the people dont understand the process of creation and fail to do it the right way... i have to say without the wisdom in that book, things wouldnt have worked out as well...


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330651 - 02/24/03 06:43 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Yeah, just a 180 degree turn around in my life, that's all.

Why do you have to be so negative?



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Learyfan]
    #1330683 - 02/24/03 06:57 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Yeah, just a 180 degree turn around in my life, that's all.
A new outlook is great and highly commendable, but is 100% internal. I asked what you specifically manifested in the outer world to show that Walsh's teachings have real merit and that you understand how to apply them.

Why do you have to be so negative?
What exactly do you find in my post to be negative? Do you find it wrong to question the validity of a teaching? Should we accept EVERYTHING we read as truth?


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330706 - 02/24/03 07:08 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching... but it is wrong to question the validity of every teaching that has to do with god or anything spiritual... and above else it is wrong to question the validity any teaching has for SOMEONE ELSE that is not yourself... you can say "that is not valid, FOR ME" but you cannot say its not valid for everyone... so please speak only of yourself when you criticize anything...


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: In(di)go]
    #1330743 - 02/24/03 07:22 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching... but it is wrong to question the validity of every teaching that has to do with god Perhaps this is due to a language barrier, but your statement makes no sense whatsoever. Which teachings are OK to question?

and above else it is wrong to question the validity any teaching has for SOMEONE ELSE that is not yourself... you can say "that is not valid, FOR ME" but you cannot say its not valid for everyone
A Spiritual Laws by its very nature, would be valid for everyone.

... so please speak only of yourself when you criticize anything...
What is the criticism that you find offensive? That Walsh wrote the books to make money? That they are full of hyperbole?



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: In(di)go]
    #1330747 - 02/24/03 07:25 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Funny how you don't mind this line from LearyFan: ...this one is pure crap.

That sounds somewhat critical to me.



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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330818 - 02/24/03 07:57 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

Perhaps this is due to a language barrier, but your statement makes no sense whatsoever. Which teachings are OK to question?



you should say your statement makes no sense for me whatsoever... i am in no position to tell you what teachings are ok to question... and i have to say that you twisted all meaning in that sentence... i was trying to say that you criticize EVRERYTHING that has to do with god... period... so for me it looks you dont objectively criticize them but just put them down because they teach something that you cant or dont want to handle...

Quote:

A Spiritual Laws by its very nature, would be valid for everyone.



if you would have read those books more attentively you should know that this is not true... i point out everytime i can that everyone has his own truth and i am not trying to impose mine on you... but you are trying to do so with me... in fact the whole post you just tried to shred down right there was saying that you can speak of your own truth but are in NO position to blatantly put down something that is true for someone else...


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: In(di)go]
    #1330833 - 02/24/03 08:06 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching...
Ok then, I question teaching A.

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching...
Ok then, I question teaching B.

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching...
Ok then, I question teaching C.

...

its not wrong to question the validity of a teaching...
Ok then, I question teaching Z.

So far, I have your approval.

...but it is wrong to question the validity of every teaching
Now, I am wrong to question teachings A-Z.

you should say your statement makes no sense for me whatsoever
Has NOTHING to do with opinion and EVERYTHING to do with basic logic.


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330878 - 02/24/03 08:26 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I agree with you. It is awsome to have intelligence to read and process any thought I can create, and it is equally awsome to have the ability to share ideas. Books, Tv, Internet are just some of the way's humans communicate. Humans are known for their reliability in failure so why is it so taboo to question information referring to religion or personal beliefs? It is fine to question science but why do people get so pissy when they start talking about shit like this? In my oppinion, I think everybody get's to a similar conclusion on how they should live their life, develop their own idea of religion/spirituality, but they need their own path. What is sin for one person is not even a temptation for another. If everybody was the same life would be too easy.


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Re: "The New Revelations" by Neale Donald Walsh [Re: Swami]
    #1330888 - 02/24/03 08:29 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

To tell you the truth, i think those first three - five books were written by an outside influence, possibly aliens. I experience cummunion with the creator now at will, and the day i finally figured out where this energy came from, i started to hit myself over the head, because it was so obvious. Following this new revelation, i became puzzled that people actually paid money for mushrooms when the experience was available anytime simply by activating the energy centres that are directly outward from the chest, and up toward the pituitary gland. I am still trying to figure out whether people just enjoy paying for mushrooms, but i think this is hardly the case.

I skimmed through " The New Revelations " on my trip to British Columbia where i got to pick my own mushrooms, which was really cool. The book was terrible, he kept saying, new revelations, but they were tired and used up riddles with words from the previous books. mybe Walsche wrote those books by himself, mybe there was an outside influence, it doesnt really matter, except that i am interested in aliens, the " New Revelations " sucked flat out, but i still love the first five.


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