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 The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? 
#1329916 - 02/23/03 08:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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This was touched on in another thread, but I thought it deserved it's own.
Here's an excerpt from a post made Here by Mr_Mushrooms.
Many news organizations have created special editorial office caucuses consisting of black, Hispanic, feminist, or homosexual journalists, who decide how the news about their respective constituencies will be reported - or whether it will be reported at all.
For example, when a homosexual man was attacked and killed by anti-gay hoodlums, that was a huge, front-page news across the country.
But when two homosexuals, at about the same time, lured a boy next door into their home and then raped and killed him, that was widely ignored, as if it had never happened.
[image]Similarly biased treatment has appeared when it came to reporting on corrupt black politicians like D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, or the dangerous double standards used for women in the military - standards which have already led to death in training and may cost still more lives in actual combat.[/image]
My issue with this is (ironically) this artical left out many similar examples of selective reporting done with a conservative slant, such as the effect the sanctions on Iraq have had on the people of Iraq, or when was the last time a major news network did any investigation into the long term affects of depleted uranium?
When has the "Liberal" media ever covered the treatment of Kurds in Turkey?
Why don't we ever hear about anti-drug war protests unless a bunch of women show their tits?
Why don't we hear what the feds are doing to the medical marijuana people?
How is your agenda being ignored? 
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 Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1329951 - 02/23/03 09:13 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it depends on the news channel. Peter Jennings is pretty liberal, and so I'm sure that bias comes through in his reports. Meanwhile, Fox news tends to be relatively conservative. I don't think either of them favors one side too heavily over the other. What I do believe is that mainstream media, whether liberal or conservative, has a strong pro-establishment bias. They don't really seem interested in politics as much as they are in politicians, but only when there's a scandal involved. Notice how the Patriot Act doesn't seem to be such a big issue in the media as it is for us. The media is largely used by the establishment for spreading propaganda. I believe the media is largely responsible for the continued public support of the Drug War.
Anyway, I think it's easy for anyone, liberal or conservative, to watch the news and think that it's biased in favor of the other side because it doesn't fit the way they see the world. If they already believe it's biased towards the other side, it's easy for them to look for stories which seem to favor the other side while brushing off the stories that seem to be in their own favor.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1329966 - 02/23/03 09:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just a quick answer since my thoughts on this are well known....
Studies have shown the media to consist of 80+ % (I think it was 87, not 100% sure) Democrat. Even if we are to assume they don't distort the news deliberately, how can bias not slip in with such an overwhelming slant?
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Why don't we hear what the feds are doing to the medical marijuana people?
Actuall we do.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1329982 - 02/23/03 09:43 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actuall we do.
There was that Connie chung article on Ed Rosenthal. The last one I saw before that was when some women protested topless about 2 years ago.
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Studies have shown the media to consist of 80+ % (I think it was 87, not 100% sure) Democrat. Even if we are to assume they don't distort the news deliberately, how can bias not slip in with such an overwhelming slant?
Possibly, but who actually MAKES the decisions? The owners/CEOs have more controll than the journalists. Are these people liberals?
They're obviously wealthy, why would a wealthy person be a liberal?
I thing the main agenda of "The Media" is to report news in the manner that makes them the most money. If reporting murders commited by black Jewish homosexuals put more money in their pockets I think we'd hear more about it.
Why are journalists overwhelmingly liberal, is it because liberals are more likely to become journalists, or is it because they are more in touch with what's going on in the world?
I mean, it is what they do for a living. Surely they are more familiar with the goings on in the world than the average person.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1329990 - 02/23/03 09:50 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Within the last few weeks there was a story on a bust in Oregon I believe, disabled man in a wheelchair arrested, then set free by the courts. If I recall correctly he was even given his pot back. Plus there have been several stories about medical marijuana busts in California. Perhaps where you get your news there have been no stories but they're out there.
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The owners/CEOs have more controll than the journalists.
The editors and review boards decide on the content of the paper on a daily basis. I don't recall the % of dem editors but it was in the same ballpark.
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They're obviously wealthy, why would a wealthy person be a liberal?
You'd have to ask them. Why are so many rich Hollywood stars liberal?
Why do reporters lean left? As liberals, they subscribe to the PC point of view. IMO their stories reflect this.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1330039 - 02/23/03 10:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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There was this one missing girl that got a fuckload of press for weeks and weeks. I didn't understand why she got so much more attention than the hundreds of other missing children.
I think it was in Utah, and I think the massive amount of press she got had something to do with Utah's missing children poicy.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1330607 - 02/24/03 04:26 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky comprehensively destroys the myth that the media has a left wing agenda. There are literally hundreds of examples.
News corporations exist to sell advertising space to corporations. For advertisers to pay them money they have to be convinced the audience they provide has money and will be receptive to their products. A news channel devoted to truly representing the poor and dispossessd isn't going to attract advertisers because the dispossessd havn't got any money. Simple. Sure, there'll be some leeway on low importance stuff like "homosexuals" or "is marilyn manson good or bad" but on anything of major importance the news corporations are going to toe the big buisness line.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Xlea321]
#1330707 - 02/24/03 05:10 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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The liberals are all lip service! Those liberals in power are no more humanitarian than the republicans. appealing to the poor by paying them lip service is a good way to garner votes.They have corporate interests just like the republicans. Dont be decieved.
Walt disney owns ABC. that is a fact! Alot of poor people buy disney products. mickey mouse loves the poor!
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: fadedpinkwings]
#1330901 - 02/24/03 06:32 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good point.
Calling Democrats "Liberals" is kind of a joke.
What is "Liberal" and "Conservative" anyway? According to the article mentioned in the first post I get the impression that Conservatives don't like gays and minorities.
Is that what this is about... The liberal media isn't "White Power" enough?
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 Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1331911 - 02/24/03 01:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see no one has yet responded to my post where I suggested that it's not so much a "liberal" or "conservative" bias that the media has, so much as it's a pro-establishment bias. Sure, they'll go after politicians, but not based on their political views so much as their personal lives, because I think we can all at least agree that the media loves scandals.
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Re: The Media: Liberal Bias or Conservative Bias? [Re: silversoul7]
#1333521 - 02/25/03 05:31 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would agree with you that the media have a more pro-establishment bias, and they also seem biased towards increasing government power regardless if the power grab is from the 'left' or the 'right' (unless it would infringe on the media's liberties). They know where they get a lot of their stories from and they don't want to be locked out of the halls of power.
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