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lester555
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Magic Mushrooms Grow kit 1
#13280505 - 10/02/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello everybody. If topic is in incorrect section im very sorry. I have question if anybody has experience buying grow kit (like this http://www.magic-mushroom-kit.com/) which already have mycelium in it, only need to water. Can advice me some good shops? which really send me kit?
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rave420
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: lester555] 1
#13280531 - 10/02/10 05:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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don't buy a damn kit. you can make everything yourself for a lot less money, and in the end you will actually understand why it works the way it does.
Buying a kit is like the dumbest and most ignorant thing you can do. look at some videos of the PF-Tek on mushroomvideos.com . That's all you ever need in the beginning.
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Base Icks



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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: rave420] 1
#13280547 - 10/02/10 05:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushroomvideos.com , watch the pf tek.
and for a spore syringe http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php
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ukshroomer
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: Base Icks] 1
#13280610 - 10/02/10 05:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello Fellow Shroomerites. Give the guy a break. There are plenty of reputable sites that sell good grow kits. I think if you are interested in growing cubensis a grow kit is sometimes a good place to start. When the mushrooms grow you can take the spores and plan for future grows. You can also take clones from the mushrooms on agar for further propagation. The grow kits are almost always made using clones and isolates so you are pretty much guaranteed good genetics for your future grows. Not to mention that you will get mushrooms much faster than if you start from spores. The Shroomery has plenty of information on how to produce mushrooms from spores and clones and you can get both from your kit. I would recommend the Dutch site www.azarius.com which also happens to be a sponsor of this website.
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Edited by ukshroomer (10/02/10 06:35 PM)
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Base Icks



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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: ukshroomer] 1
#13280654 - 10/02/10 05:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you bought a kit that contained a culture or a clone, it would be illegal to ship it, let alone possess. I dont think companies would be doing that. I could be wrong, but if that is what they are doing thats very ignorant.
Shipping or possessing living psilocybin containing mushrooms or their cultures are illegal.
Spores are the only legal part of them to have since they dont contain psilocybin.
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ukshroomer
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: Base Icks] 1
#13280681 - 10/02/10 05:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes it is illegal. Some sites will not ship to certain countries others dont really care. In the Netherlands the mycelium of psilocybin mushrooms is legal however the fruitbodies are not. Growkits from Holland contain live mycelium with great genetics. Check out this product.
http://www.azarius.net/smartshop/shrooms/grow_boxes/myceliumbox_cambodia/
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Pandor


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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: ukshroomer] 1
#13280820 - 10/02/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Give the guy a break. At least he's asking. Years ago, I just bought one.
You can get a lot more bang for your buck doing a little research and buying spores from a reputable vendor. I recommend Sporeworks.
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rustycobwebs
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: ukshroomer] 1
#13282498 - 10/03/10 03:51 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
ukshroomer said: Hello Fellow Shroomerites. Give the guy a break. There are plenty of reputable sites that sell good grow kits. I think if you are interested in growing cubensis a grow kit is sometimes a good place to start.
I disagree wholeheartedly. If you are looking for quick easy mushrooms, price and technique be damned, then in that case a grow kit would be a good place to start.
I mean you talk a good game but if he can't make his own PF jars what makes you think he's pouring his own agar or even getting petri dishes? Why isolate if you're just gonna buy kits theres no point.
A good place to start is here. Read. Make understanding the life cycle and growth parameters your goal, not obtaining mushrooms. If you get that right you'll have plenty.
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biffo
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i bought a kit back when they were legal here in the uk, not knowing any better i half filled an old ice cream tub with water, covered the tub with cling film and floated the kit in it! amazed it worked tbh
dont knock the kits, its the best way to grow cubes without mummy finding out
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rustycobwebs
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: biffo] 1
#13283388 - 10/03/10 10:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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biffo said: dont knock the kits, its the best way to grow cubes without mummy finding out 
I find the best way to keep my mummy from finding out is to keep myself in a position where she's not in my business. Like, out of her house.
Growing without a home owners permission, at least here in the USA, can potentially have horrendous consequences for all parties involved, and is generally frowned upon.
I suppose that's just a rant. I just like things done the old fashion way I guess. Hard work. Dedication. Preperation, planning, and flawless execution.
All of these great feelings get stripped from you by ordering kits.
When and if you have a problem with your kit, you CAN'T tell us what it is, because you don't really KNOW for sure. Because you didn't make it, some monkey in a lab did. And if he makes a mistake, what is one return to a company he doesn't own? Nothing to him. Weeks for you. Think about it.
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tr1ppy
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Registered: 04/21/13
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Hello Shroomery. 38 year old male here. I have been planning to use a grow kit. My previous two attempts has resulted in what i believe was most likely peniclin mold... 3rd time i would like to succeed. I am yet to buy any books, although I am aware of a couple which are available on amazon... ( birthday presents/christmas present along with a pressure cooker ! )
I hope you don't mind me sharing my game plan here. (dear moderators, I am new and have read the rules but if i breach them please can you warn and advise me? as i really would like to use this forum. )
anyway i want to get 4 Tupperware boxes, one of them will not let in light. box 1 = very large , i will cut armholes in this , it will be my grow box, for inoculating.
box 2 , dark box for cultivation . needs to be big enough to eventually house about 4 to 6 cakes. (jam jar size) but for now just a grow kit bag (will i need to air this box 1 or 2 twice a day, as the grow bag has an air filter?) also i was planning to spray bleach spray and area and all the boxes, is this advisable.
box3 , largest box, will cut hole in lid to feed in aquarium heater. will fill halfway with water to retain 86degrees centigrade for colonization and 76 degrees for fruiting. should i drill air holes in box 3 along the top. box 4 , fruiting chamber like box 2 will be place in box 3 for now will have a grow kit bag but long term will have base filled with perlite.
I would welcome all your advice and suggestions. thank you all in advance.
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PussyFart
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: tr1ppy] 1
#18986377 - 10/16/13 02:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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You have been reading some really outdated info, and kits are a waste of money, and you bumped a 3 year old thread....yay!
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
And the jars should have some sort of filter, so spraying bleach is not really needed...mine colonize just fine on a dusty shelf.
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Edited by PussyFart (10/16/13 02:10 PM)
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tr1ppy
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Grow kit [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18989480 - 10/17/13 03:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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thank you.my main concern is with is sterilization. the place where i buy the kits sells a pressure cooker ( a quartz) one for about $500. but then amazon and local stores sell them for around $150 so i wonder what the differences are ? The advice about light is very interesting. if you could point me in the direction of updated books or similar that you recommend. on mycology i would be most grateful.
Also On your advice, i will wait for full colonization, with patience. Is it true i should wait an extra week, for the mycelium to bond internally too.
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