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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: Nymphaea]
    #13275142 - 10/01/10 12:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

not a bad idea actually.. i hate it where im at aswell


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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: Scudreloaded]
    #13275296 - 10/01/10 01:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm proud to live in Cali, despite our retarded spore laws.  This needs to happen for cultivation related offenses too.  Those fuck you over so hard.

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: GutteralRetch]
    #13275446 - 10/01/10 02:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Victory..woo! Now we need legalization and other states to follow..


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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #13275721 - 10/01/10 03:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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PsilocybinMike said:
I wonder why he's opposing prop 19?



:shrug:




'I didn't take any drugs...it's a leaf'. That's what he says also a few years ago,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-490333/Marijuana-drug--leaf-says-Arnold-Schwarzenegger.html


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Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines

Edited by bigmike7104 (10/01/10 03:04 PM)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: GutteralRetch]
    #13275819 - 10/01/10 03:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

thats cool n all but this bill means nothing once prop 19 passes, guess its good to have a little support if it doesn't :goodluck:

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    #13276520 - 10/01/10 05:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: GutteralRetch]
    #13276691 - 10/01/10 06:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like Oregon, or at least in my parts with no jail space. Last time I had pot a cop just dumped it and shook his head, "no medical card, meh". Nothing happened and it was only a a bowl load. Besides, they have tweakers and pedos to deal with.

Still looking forward to legalized bud, where ever it may be in the country. It is a start and the more states that decriminalize it the better. It is a step in the right direction.

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: 4runner]
    #13276778 - 10/01/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

from the Norml site:
The new law, which takes effect on Jan 1, 2011, will have an effect even if Californians vote to legalize marijuana by passing Prop 19. Proposition 19 leaves misdemeanor possession penalties in place for public use and smoking in the presence of children; under SB 1449, these offenses would be simple infractions.

so yea this is great.


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It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
~~ Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the USA" (1921).

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: xxking0mmxx]
    #13276886 - 10/01/10 07:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This is still not a victory. I STIL CANT SMOKE. I have a real fucking job that tests frequently. not until it is legalized, its not a victory. This is just going to make ppl not vote because they are "satisfied"


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    #13276902 - 10/01/10 07:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: dr_gonz]
    #13277324 - 10/01/10 09:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

SB 1449 deals strictly with possession. Cultivation would still be considered a felony until Prop. 19 passes.

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: dokunai]
    #13277337 - 10/01/10 09:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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dokunai said:
I'm proud to live in Cali, despite our retarded spore laws. 




Has anyone ever been charged under the spore laws?

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This needs to happen for cultivation related offenses too.  Those fuck you over so hard.




Most mushroom cultivation busts in CA result in probation.

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    #13277390 - 10/01/10 09:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: dr_gonz]
    #13277420 - 10/01/10 09:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Cultivation of any amount is a felony in California.

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    #13277442 - 10/01/10 09:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: dr_gonz]
    #13278130 - 10/02/10 01:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

probably because you can cultivate way more than an ounce if you wanted to


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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #13278382 - 10/02/10 04:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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AsAboveSoBelow said:
At least now it won't be such a huge letdown if prop 19 fails

People will probably say that this bill will make people even lazier about getting out the vote for 19.. but I don't think it's going to pass anyways




I have to admit, I think the passing of this bill is not necessarily the best thing with prop 19 on the table. "Sympathizers" (people who don't smoke, but understand the need to legalize and regulate) might not be as inclined to vote; they might think, "well that's good enough.". However, I think most people understand the difference between "decriminalization" and "partial legalization", and will still vote yes.

The fact is - decriminalization doesn't allow for regulation, and there is no tax incentive. Furthermore, decriminalization is an unsustainable transition state that ignores the elephant in the room.

Don't get me wrong though; if prop 19 doesn't pass, this bill is ace :smile:. I just hope it doesn't influence 19.

EDIT: I think prop 19 still has a chance. Polling has it at more pro than against (47:42), and I think the polls are less likely to sample people who are young and just registering to vote (and are likely to vote yes). In fact, for many freshman entering college, this will be their first election! If it doesn't pass, it is going to be damn close.


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Edited by Green_T (10/02/10 04:50 AM)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: Green_T]
    #13278649 - 10/02/10 07:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Green_T said:
Quote:

AsAboveSoBelow said:
At least now it won't be such a huge letdown if prop 19 fails

People will probably say that this bill will make people even lazier about getting out the vote for 19.. but I don't think it's going to pass anyways




I have to admit, I think the passing of this bill is not necessarily the best thing with prop 19 on the table. "Sympathizers" (people who don't smoke, but understand the need to legalize and regulate) might not be as inclined to vote; they might think, "well that's good enough.". However, I think most people understand the difference between "decriminalization" and "partial legalization", and will still vote yes.

The fact is - decriminalization doesn't allow for regulation, and there is no tax incentive. Furthermore, decriminalization is an unsustainable transition state that ignores the elephant in the room.

Don't get me wrong though; if prop 19 doesn't pass, this bill is ace :smile:. I just hope it doesn't influence 19.

EDIT: I think prop 19 still has a chance. Polling has it at more pro than against (47:42), and I think the polls are less likely to sample people who are young and just registering to vote (and are likely to vote yes). In fact, for many freshman entering college, this will be their first election! If it doesn't pass, it is going to be damn close.




I dont know, I think the people that don't smoke that are thinking of voting to pass prop 19 are doing it on the fact that legalizing would bring in billions plus help to cut off money from the cartels.  This bill will do none of that.

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    #13279073 - 10/02/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: [CA] Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Decriminalizing Marijuana Despite Opposing Prop 19 [Re: dr_gonz]
    #13279087 - 10/02/10 10:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

enough of your devil logics! you musn't upset the lizard people


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