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Mr Mycoman
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13583346 - 12/04/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got the designer model Bella Cucino from Macys(LOL!), sounds fancy huh? It was the same price ($40) as Sears. I took my daughter to the mall today so I was killing time while she played....MM
It matches my Kalven Klein PC and Jordache Jars
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13583366 - 12/04/10 08:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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WELL I WORK FOR CALVIN KLEIN. I'M A MODEL.
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Mr Mycoman
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What's up with the leopard fur? LOL! I think I would wear a shirt. Then again, a mask would help too........MM
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13585905 - 12/05/10 02:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just mixed up 5 batches of a similar mix as this yours. I just started working with coir recently and I love the all the characteristics of it. It's very forgiving with the moisture content. The texture is awesome, and it colonizes extremely fast, like 4 days to a complete white substrate(all throughout), but it seems as though it lacks in nutes so I combined Damion's recipe with yours in order to try and keep all the good characteristics and yet have plenty of nutes. I went with 3/4 brick of coir(cut in half using my jig saw, great!). 1 liter worm castings, 2 liters verm, 2 liters poo(horse with 15%black kow), and 1 cup hydrated lime as a buffer just in case. I might put some straw in one of them to see if it makes a difference. Any thoughts before I stick it in the steamer?
I'm going to try out Damion's pasteurizing method of adding boiling water to one of the buckets to see how that works. I just read in another post that somebody has been doing it with poo successfully so what the heck
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13586113 - 12/05/10 03:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damion's is good. But I though it was a straight coir tek. That would explain the use of the bucket for pasteurizing.
I'm not familiar with the recipe in the tek though. I just use this one.
I've heard great shit about it though. Should prolly read it sometime soon.
I've had problems in the past pasteurizing poo w/ the bucket method. Thats why I use the roasters.
Your recipe sounds perfect though. Should work well.
I'd skip the straw though.
Straw tends to contaminate quickly in mono's from my experience.
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ya RR is adamant about saying the bucket pasteurization is not actually pasteurization but only slightly "cooking" the coir to make it easier for the myc to digest.
if i had a remote thermometer i'd like to see how the temps stay inside the bucket.
but i just do it and it works soooo..
but i hear it doesnt work with poo. i've yet to try poo yet. even though i can probably get ridiculous amounts of it.
(midwest)
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13586287 - 12/05/10 03:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said: ya RR is adamant about saying the bucket pasteurization is not actually pasteurization but only slightly "cooking" the coir to make it easier for the myc to digest.
if i had a remote thermometer i'd like to see how the temps stay inside the bucket.
but i just do it and it works soooo..
but i hear it doesnt work with poo. i've yet to try poo yet. even though i can probably get ridiculous amounts of it.
(midwest)
I've measured them with a thermometer w/ a wire. They stay up there. the problem is it actually can get too high. With poo if it gets sterilized you may have issues.
Coir on the other hand is very clean.
These B+ kids I knew didn't even pasteurize their coir at all. Just hydrate and spawn and never got contaminated.
I would definitely not do this myself. But coir is def a very clean substrate.
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haha ya i think it was m00nshine who said he did that before.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13586327 - 12/05/10 03:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know! These kids used to do it all the time.... 100% No contams.
Until one day tough.
The whole fuckin' place went green. They lost everything.
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k00laid
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ive yet to see the green. though im pretty positive ive got a large splotch of bacteria atm.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13586347 - 12/05/10 04:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I only do after multiple flushes.
Since I don't take more than 2 flushes before replacing the substrate with a fresh one I never see it these days either.
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Mr Mycoman
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13586351 - 12/05/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't try the Damion bucket method, decided not to risk a whole batch. I usually like to do a lot of experimenting but no real reason to do that when my pasteurizer is cooking anyway. The Damion5050 recipe is just 1 brick coir and 2 qts verm. Simple as it gets
I did skip the straw. The texture came out almost like coir so I'm happy with it so far. It looks nice and rich with a nice fluffy texture. It's gonna work just fine.
I tried the bucket method with some casing a day or two ago and I think if I had put enough in there it would have worked. I put the remote probe into it and it was between 170 and 140 for almost 30 minutes. If there was more subs in it, it would have stayed hot longer so it may have worked......MM
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13586383 - 12/05/10 04:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr Mycoman said: I didn't try the Damion bucket method, decided not to risk a whole batch. I usually like to do a lot of experimenting but no real reason to do that when my pasteurizer is cooking anyway. The Damion5050 recipe is just 1 brick coir and 2 qts verm. Simple as it gets
I did skip the straw. The texture came out almost like coir so I'm happy with it so far. It looks nice and rich with a nice fluffy texture. It's gonna work just fine.
I tried the bucket method with some casing a day or two ago and I think if I had put enough in there it would have worked. I put the remote probe into it and it was between 170 and 140 for almost 30 minutes. If there was more subs in it, it would have stayed hot longer so it may have worked......MM
It should be ok. Yea, coir and verm are super clean. But poo is packed w/ nutes.
I SHOULD MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR TO EVERYONE!
I POO!
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Looks like I started this topic back up lol.
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ProfessorPinHead said:
I SHOULD MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR TO EVERYONE!
I POO!
  
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: anonjon]
#13586736 - 12/05/10 05:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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PERCIVAL THE POO PROTECTOR "stay the fuck away from my poo" -
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hamloaf
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Glad to see your tek catching on.
I pasteurize my manure in spawn bags, on the stove, in a large pot, using water as the heat transfer medium.
I'd like to have a roaster like yours one day because the stove top method requires attention.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: hamloaf]
#13592972 - 12/06/10 08:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamloaf said: Glad to see your tek catching on.
I pasteurize my manure in spawn bags, on the stove, in a large pot, using water as the heat transfer medium.
I'd like to have a roaster like yours one day because the stove top method requires attention.
$29 per unit @ Walmart.
even cheaper @ Goodwill.
Value = Priceless  They do require a lot less attention. I would never go back.
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hamloaf
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I like to pasteurize the shit out my horse manure.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: hamloaf]
#13595082 - 12/07/10 10:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamloaf said: I like to pasteurize the shit out my horse manure.
Yea,...... I do for 2 hours.
I'm paranoid though.
Word on the street is you only gotta do it for 60min. ....
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