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Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs
    #13268454 - 09/30/10 04:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I know this isn't news to most, but look at the salary that prison guards get

Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs
09/29/2010 - Spot.us
Asset forfeitures and confiscations constitute the largest single source of income for CA law enforcement at every level, local to state.  They share the take with the DEA, and earn federal 'anti-drug' dollars for identifying minorities as 'gangs' , and stuff their coffers with expensive cars and cash. 'Undercover' police live as drug kingpins on public funds, in mansions, with limosines and police drivers. Homes worth millions are taken from alleged marijuana farmers who must then prove their innocence, in an inversion of the normal judicial requirements.

Prison guards similarly profit personally by their triple-time overtime pay; the SF Chronicle four years ago stated that

'most' CA prison guards earned most of their salaries in overtime, overlooking largely passive crowds of minority youths

in on marijuana related offenses. The average CA Prison Guard salary with overtime is greater than $130,000 annually.


The War on Drugs is a swindle, orchestrated conducted by politicians, drug lords, police, penal, Border Patrol, and other government officers for their personal profit. A closer look at the Bell, CA compensations will reveal the conspiracy between government officials and police to incarcerate the powerless for money. as will a close  audit  of the

payment records of the police departments up and down the state.

Green_T note: This website is open source journalism. Please read about them on http://spot.us/pages/about : they aim to push little known stories up into the open


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13268587 - 09/30/10 06:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

$130,000 a year with overtime?  Jesus...no wonder they lobby to keep marijuana and other drugs illegal.  When is this bullshit going to come to the attention of the public?  And more importantly if it does, will they care?  I can't see a large portion of our population going up in arms about this unfortunately.  Something needs to be done and this issue needs to be addressed.  The other thread discussing how many children have parents in prison is SICKENING.


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13269297 - 09/30/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

nothing will get done by typing about it...grab your fucking guns...its time for another american revolution.


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13269408 - 09/30/10 11:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

revolution huh? and here i was thinking we could just change domestic law enforcement policy.

who are you going to take up guns against? prison guards? maybe we should just release all the violent criminals into the streets. Police? do you really think they are all malicious, corrupt people with no sense of positive purpose? The DEA? a federal organization, so in a sense, you are saying attempt to overthrow the federal government? good luck with all that.

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13269428 - 09/30/10 11:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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nothing will get done by typing about it...grab your fucking guns...its time for another american revolution.



Say you and another 100-200 people were standing next to me armed to the teeth I would absolutely suggest we form a militia and take it to Washington. Our govt no longer represents the people. They are blowing all our money the "defense" budget and keeping the millions of innocent Americans in jail - paying our money to greedy privatized prison industries such as the GEO group. They make bold faces lies in order to get elected, and do whatever they want once they are in office. If we don't do this soon not only will we lose our place of power in the world, but our quality of life will decline considerably.

And to the people who claim violence isn't the answer- it's apparently the answer for every other corrupt govt, as we so gladly go squash them with our high-tech military.

It's time for responsibility. It's time for accountability. It's time for a frugal government. We have let the clock run too long to wait for the gears of bureaucracy to slowly change course.


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: blujay]
    #13269498 - 09/30/10 11:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

you guys are retarded

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13269525 - 09/30/10 11:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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revolution huh? and here i was thinking we could just change domestic law enforcement policy.

who are you going to take up guns against? prison guards? maybe we should just release all the violent criminals into the streets. Police? do you really think they are all malicious, corrupt people with no sense of positive purpose? The DEA? a federal organization, so in a sense, you are saying attempt to overthrow the federal government? good luck with all that.

/endrant




The senators, congressmen, the rest of the government. The president. The Czars. Then we replace it with a system that doesn't allow for them to act in contrary to the public good.

You're right. It would fail. They have bigger guns.

But a man can dream.

How are you going to change domestic law enforcement policy if the entire government is reliant on it in order to keep their charade going- they will never legalize. It's a method of control.


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: blujay]
    #13269592 - 09/30/10 11:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

you are delusional at best. highly ignorant at worst.


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: blujay]
    #13269829 - 09/30/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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How are you going to change domestic law enforcement policy if the entire government is reliant on it in order to keep their charade going- they will never legalize. It's a method of control.




The entire government isnt reliant on the current drug policy.

Suggesting that the wheels of our country's system are powered solely by drug war profits is ridiculous. It's powered by taxes.

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13269935 - 09/30/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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How are you going to change domestic law enforcement policy if the entire government is reliant on it in order to keep their charade going- they will never legalize. It's a method of control.




The entire government isnt reliant on the current drug policy.

Suggesting that the wheels of our country's system are powered solely by drug war profits is ridiculous. It's powered by taxes.




^QFT. The idea that we are powerless against the government and whatever we do is futile is a very defeatist way of thinking. Segregation was a way of whites having control over blacks, but it was eventually outlawed. This is similar, and all it needs is just people to wake up.

We are already seeing things on ballots, and that is where it begins. In the late 1980s it would be inconceivable that there would be 14 states where certain people can walk into a shop and buy marijuana (or grow their own), yet this goes on now.

Don't confuse the slow change of pace with stagnation.

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13270102 - 09/30/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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How are you going to change domestic law enforcement policy if the entire government is reliant on it in order to keep their charade going- they will never legalize. It's a method of control.




The entire government isnt reliant on the current drug policy.

Suggesting that the wheels of our country's system are powered solely by drug war profits is ridiculous. It's powered by taxes.




^QFT. The idea that we are powerless against the government and whatever we do is futile is a very defeatist way of thinking. Segregation was a way of whites having control over blacks, but it was eventually outlawed. This is similar, and all it needs is just people to wake up.

We are already seeing things on ballots, and that is where it begins. In the late 1980s it would be inconceivable that there would be 14 states where certain people can walk into a shop and buy marijuana (or grow their own), yet this goes on now.

Don't confuse the slow change of pace with stagnation.









i see protests everyday and all over the country about many things that people want changed. i personally set up the speakers and run the mixing board and hear everyone who speaks. why are those protests not working? why havnt things changed?

it is not a defeatist way of looking at it if people give it their all in a non violent way and nothing is changed. do you think people can protest forever and have nothing change and will still want to protest. no...there is no reason change should take 20 years...if the people want it..which they have since hmmmm...well you remember woodstock...then there is no reason it should take this long. im not saying overnight, but come on...40 years...50 years...its about the money with these greedy fucks and they will do anything to make sure it keeps entering their greedy fucking pockets.


all the people who are fed up with the govt not giving a shit about our non violent protests...bring it to their fucking doorstep...grab your guns and start a revolution. i do my part everday, not just on these message boards. i have my followers, and soon i will be at washington, whether it is to face that scumbag in office now, or some other schmuck who will lie to the people just to get in and then do whatever they want. I am taking this country back!


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13270169 - 09/30/10 01:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Haha, just change domestic policy?  Every heard of cointelpro?  You think they are gone?  Civil rights didn't matter then and they do now?  Haha, w/e


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13270222 - 09/30/10 01:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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i see protests everyday and all over the country about many things that people want changed. i personally set up the speakers and run the mixing board and hear everyone who speaks. why are those protests not working? why havnt things changed?





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▶ In 1969, only 13 percent of Californians favored legalization, while a total of 75 percent supported either strict enforcement of existing laws or passage of new and tougher legislation.

▶ By 1983, support for legalization had more than doubled, but even at that, only 30 percent favored the change, compared to 56 percent who still backed tough enforcement of then-current laws or even stricter sanctions against the drug.

▶ Today, 50 percent of voters say they favor legalization of marijuana, while 33 percent want greater law enforcement efforts against it, a huge swing of 79 percent in the direction of liberalized public policies on the issue.


- http://independent.com/news/2010/sep/30/smoke/

Nothings changed? :shrug:

There are things that affect change, and there are things that don't. The people who stand in parks with loudspeakers chanting slogans may think they are doing things, but it is the people who raise money to get things on the ballot who actually make a difference.

And to people who thinks civil rights haven't gotten better, pick up a history book. At least now my parent's interracial marriage is recognized in all the states :rolleyes:

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13270319 - 09/30/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

you know i bet 100 years from now all this will be on a textbook just like slaves are now, people profiting off prison is just putridly corrupt

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13270326 - 09/30/10 01:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

wait text books? wtf am i saying that shits already obsolete

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13270361 - 09/30/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet interracial marriage!  Means so much to me?  Ok, so rights have improved, to a degree, I'll give you that.  But great efforts were made to stop and reduce those progressions. Awareness and motivation for change are not near as strong now as then.  We got TVs and Internets and bad economies to worry about. 

Really, it just comes down to me personally, having a strong disfavor for all laws.  So I'll take that.  But dont you think it's odd that this k2 stuff is everywhere?  Still legal in most places?  To me, it's a great idea, kinda like considering a thc both legal and illegal.  Win/win.  I believe our leaders orchestrate us against one another and treat us like cattle.  If you think policy change will fix that then I think you are the one retarded. 

On the other hand I'll advocate no violence against our state.  I don't have an answer.  Don't pretend to, I just wanna be an architect  of the cosmos.

Good luck getting policy change to allow food producers to mark their non GMO food as non-GMO.  Good luck getting monsanto to stop spreading their seed.  Policy change.  No, policy elimination.  Either way, we'll always have something to fear or resist right?  Part of this life.  It's up to us to attach ourselves to it or just say fuck it.

edit:  And on the inter-race marriage, I've always been surprised when I see a story on TV about a husband and wife of mixed race who were married, in the 60s or 70s, but there they are.  So I don't really get how that's changed?  Not my experience so I don't know.  But I've seen inter-race marriages, pictures/video, from that era. 


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Green_T]
    #13270901 - 09/30/10 03:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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i see protests everyday and all over the country about many things that people want changed. i personally set up the speakers and run the mixing board and hear everyone who speaks. why are those protests not working? why havnt things changed?





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▶ In 1969, only 13 percent of Californians favored legalization, while a total of 75 percent supported either strict enforcement of existing laws or passage of new and tougher legislation.

▶ By 1983, support for legalization had more than doubled, but even at that, only 30 percent favored the change, compared to 56 percent who still backed tough enforcement of then-current laws or even stricter sanctions against the drug.

▶ Today, 50 percent of voters say they favor legalization of marijuana, while 33 percent want greater law enforcement efforts against it, a huge swing of 79 percent in the direction of liberalized public policies on the issue.


- http://independent.com/news/2010/sep/30/smoke/

Nothings changed? :shrug:

There are things that affect change, and there are things that don't. The people who stand in parks with loudspeakers chanting slogans may think they are doing things, but it is the people who raise money to get things on the ballot who actually make a difference.

And to people who thinks civil rights haven't gotten better, pick up a history book. At least now my parent's interracial marriage is recognized in all the states :rolleyes:






thank you for proving my point about how it takes forever for change... :congrats:


i dont want change when i am 80 years old having some mexican clean my depends..i want it fucking now so i can enjoy. i bet if your parents wanted to have their marriage and it wasnt allowed, they wouldnt be to happy about waiting 50 years to finally commit now would they? didnt think so....


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13271134 - 09/30/10 04:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Spoken like a true instant-gratificationalist.

Our system of government is set up to prevent rapid change, because rapid change facilitates tyranny.

Sure everything is not perfect, but we have it a hell of a lot better than a lot of other places.

The inefficiency and slow pace of bureaucracy is both a blessing and a curse.

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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13271476 - 09/30/10 05:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Spoken like a true instant-gratificationalist.

Our system of government is set up to prevent rapid change, because rapid change facilitates tyranny.

Sure everything is not perfect, but we have it a hell of a lot better than a lot of other places.

The inefficiency and slow pace of bureaucracy is both a blessing and a curse.





ok well you have fun waiting 50 years for change..i on the other hand want it in around 10, not to much to ask is it?


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13271491 - 09/30/10 05:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You may have to work on your grammar a bit, before you take over the government. 

Bare in mind, we are not living in the worst of times, I assure you.  Believe that as you type freely whatever is on your mind. 

You may want to keep in mind that organizing a violent overthrow of the government is a capital crime.

Consider support; basing a violent overthrow on Drug Policy reform, you guarantee that you will not get support from the general public.  However, lets just say you succeed To violently overthrow the government; you would be looking at TERRIFYING times.  For a time, at least, you would have Millions taking advantage of this power shift.  By ending the current Gov. you would be scraping all it's rules and all it's power, starting from scratch.  What would you propose to bring order and safety to your great nation?  Violent revolutions are usually based on issues that affect all people in that nation.

This does not need to take 50 years, however.  I am not a huge fan of protests.  Real change comes from persistent efforts, not a couple hundred weekend warrior protests here and there.  You need communities that fight for human rights to see that imprisonment of addicts alienates basic human rights.  You need the medical community to agree that addiction is a medical issue, that requires treatment, not imprisonment.  You need lawyers and judges to understand that there is no property crime, no violent offense; so that they develop and evolve the laws in understanding of this.  You need all these people to care enough to stand up for what they believe in.

PS - I am glad you have followers.  Not really though.


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    #13271642 - 09/30/10 06:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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You may have to work on your grammar a bit, before you take over the government. 

Bare in mind, we are not living in the worst of times, I assure you.  Believe that as you type freely whatever is on your mind. 

You may want to keep in mind that organizing a violent overthrow of the government is a capital crime.

Consider support; basing a violent overthrow on Drug Policy reform, you guarantee that you will not get support from the general public.  However, lets just say you succeed To violently overthrow the government; you would be looking at TERRIFYING times.  For a time, at least, you would have Millions taking advantage of this power shift.  By ending the current Gov. you would be scraping all it's rules and all it's power, starting from scratch.  What would you propose to bring order and safety to your great nation?  Violent revolutions are usually based on issues that affect all people in that nation.

This does not need to take 50 years, however.  I am not a huge fan of protests.  Real change comes from persistent efforts, not a couple hundred weekend warrior protests here and there.  You need communities that fight for human rights to see that imprisonment of addicts alienates basic human rights.  You need the medical community to agree that addiction is a medical issue, that requires treatment, not imprisonment.  You need lawyers and judges to understand that there is no property crime, no violent offense; so that they develop and evolve the laws in understanding of this.  You need all these people to care enough to stand up for what they believe in.

PS - I am glad you have followers.  Not really though.







because my grammar on an internet forum resembles my grammar in real life? I guess that means you actually look like your avatar? If that's the case...I'd fuck you


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Re: Police, DEA, Prison Guards personally profit from War on Drugs [Re: esp0791]
    #13271982 - 09/30/10 07:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It does.

I do.

I am married to a wonderful woman, so no you can't fuck me.  Stick to fucking your country.


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