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is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria?
    #13265572 - 09/29/10 03:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

so im a newb to shrooms but i have a TON of these guys growing in my yard, is it safe to eat these? im worried....







My yard is full of pine trees and its been very rainy. ive got TONS of these. help?


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: kagzara]
    #13265589 - 09/29/10 03:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think so.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: kagzara]
    #13265596 - 09/29/10 03:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

if you live in the us it could be amanita amerimuscaria. Im not too much help i know.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: 1kldude]
    #13265599 - 09/29/10 03:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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if you live in the us it could be amanita amerimuscaria. Im not too much help i know.




Nah, I reckon you may've nailed it, mate. Nice one.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: kagzara]
    #13265622 - 09/29/10 03:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i live in southern minnesota, these grew in an area with ALOT of pine trees, so you guys think theyre ok to eat? any recommendations?


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: kagzara]
    #13265627 - 09/29/10 03:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Amanita muscaria var. persicina.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13265775 - 09/29/10 04:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The basal bulb end of the stipe in the second to last picture with the single collar doesnt look like amanita muscaria at all.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: Salvia_Antics]
    #13265803 - 09/29/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Thats what they call an atypical specimen. It looks similar to the collar on A. pantherina, they are closely related.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13265819 - 09/29/10 04:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats what they call an atypical specimen. It looks similar to the collar on A. pantherina, they are closely related.



Yeah, never seen one on a muscaria though.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: Salvia_Antics]
    #13265829 - 09/29/10 04:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well now you have. :cheers:


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13265840 - 09/29/10 04:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Well now you have. :cheers:



Yep.:thumbup:


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: Salvia_Antics]
    #13265860 - 09/29/10 04:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You sure its not Amanita frostiana? lol Sorry for the skepticism it just bothers me that the main feature of A. muscaria is the multiple fuzzy concentric rings and this one has a single collar.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: kagzara]
    #13265879 - 09/29/10 04:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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i live in southern minnesota, these grew in an area with ALOT of pine trees, so you guys think theyre ok to eat? any recommendations?




Okay to eat seems to differ by whom you ask.

Some people will sun dry or oven dry them (~190 degrees F) before eating (this will cause some sort of odd feelings, usually a trip, but sometimes the pukies).

Others will parboil and them cook and eat them.

I just like to enjoy them with the eye and camera. 

Leave the cybertour for something with psilocybin in it.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: Salvia_Antics]
    #13265896 - 09/29/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It always good to ask questions.
A. frostiana is a smaller mushroom.:thumbup:


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13265902 - 09/29/10 04:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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It always good to ask questions.
A. frostiana is a smaller mushroom.:thumbup:



Oh ok, cool.


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: LanLord]
    #13266054 - 09/29/10 05:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

kagzara said:
i live in southern minnesota, these grew in an area with ALOT of pine trees, so you guys think theyre ok to eat? any recommendations?




Okay to eat seems to differ by whom you ask.

Some people will sun dry or oven dry them (~190 degrees F) before eating (this will cause some sort of odd feelings, usually a trip, but sometimes the pukies).

Others will parboil and them cook and eat them.

I just like to enjoy them with the eye and camera. 

Leave the cybertour for something with psilocybin in it.



In low doses, it's like getting drunk. Seriously. Headbuzz, coordination loss, giggly, tired.
But yeah, totally dry them out if you want that kind of thing. Dried and boiled into a tea is my preferred method, but on friday I'll try just eating the dried slices. Drinking mushroom-flavored water isn't my idea of a good start haha.
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nausea
upset stomach
loss of coordination
loss of ability to speak
loss of car keys(no kidding)
disorientation
giggles
excessive sweating
excessive drooling
excessive use of the word excessive
"metallic" or "tingly" sensation in mouth and throat
mushroom breath
acting dorky
SPOS - Sudden Pass Out Syndrome
Flushes
dizziness
buzzing feeling in the head (like when drunk)
buzzing feeling in the body
Altered sense of taste
Altered sense of sight
Altered sense of sense
not knowing how to spell sense

If there's anything I'm leaving out, be sure to add =D


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Re: is this Fly Agraic/ amantia muscaria? [Re: Darklight203]
    #13266099 - 09/29/10 05:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've read a lot of posts, in and out of shroomery, that express the "high" in waves. The first is much like Darklight mentions in that it is similar to alcohol but far more sluggish/drooly. The transition from 1st wave to 2nd is catalyzed by sleep and crazy dreams or vomitting. After the sleep or puking, the user feels refreshed and the second wave is compared to a rush of energy much like some form of speed.

I've not tried A. muscaria, so I can't speak from experience, but just reading about it doesn't sound too wonderful to me. I think I'll just stick to psilocybin. :mushroom2:


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