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Customs and spores
#13259497 - 09/28/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay I am studying mycology on my own and have ordered some spores to the country where I am currently staying. I am originally from Georgia in the US.
I am leaving for a extended visit back to Georgia in about a month. My question is has anyone been in a similar situation as me and tried taking spore syringes with them? What is the best way to do this as Georgia is anal about this kind of thing?
Or should I just leave them here and continue my microscopy when I return?
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Anonymous said: Okay I am studying mycology on my own and have ordered some spores to the country where I am currently staying. I am originally from Georgia in the US.
I am leaving for a extended visit back to Georgia in about a month. My question is has anyone been in a similar situation as me and tried taking spore syringes with them? What is the best way to do this as Georgia is anal about this kind of thing?
Or should I just leave them here and continue my microscopy when I return?
I'd leave them because EVERYBODY knows they search every vehicle that crosses the state line and strip (and cavity) search every occupant of the vehicle. If that wasn't bad enough the search each and every house and apartment on a weekly basis.
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Its a flight. If I was driving I would not worry.
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johnm214



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Where are you going through customs?
Also, do you know that georgia prohibits possesion of spores or importation of them? I can't find any statute that does this- if anyone can please post the citation.
What type of spores are these?
It is obviously safer to not bring them, but I wouldn't imagine it to be much of a problem if they are in a syringe without a needle or mettle parts. You never know though.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: johnm214]
#13259877 - 09/28/10 03:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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And as I said before I am out of the country and will be going through international customs.....
I am coming from costa rica into texas and then into georgia.
And the spores are cubes.
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johnm214



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right, I understand your arriving internationally, I was wondering where you will be going through customs.
For the sake of argument if we presume spores are illegal in georgia to possess, if you were going through customs in georgia that would be a different ball of wax than if you weren't. Having someone search through your stuff always carries a risk they'll find something. If that something is illegal solely by your possesion of it, it would certainly be something to consider. (likely it would then constitute several federal offenses and likely some crime as well- things snowball at airports)
I would imagine you'd be cool with something that will clear the metal detector and doesn't violate homeland security rules or the airplane/ports rules, but you never know.
Personally i wouldn't risk it, not worth it, but if you decide differently just make sure you know the rules otherwise and aren't violating them so there isn't an extra incentive to seize the syringe or whatever.
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Yeah it is a misdemeanor for possession spores in Georgia. I guess ill leave em here and come back to them later. Shame that Georgia cant follow 90% of the rest of the country in allowing spores.
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i wasn't aware there were any states that ban spores....
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psychadelic spores are widely claimed to be banned in a few states, however; I've found that when you actually look up the law, the situation is different than represented.
Basically, I recall that one of the states actually did ban them (Idaho maybe?) and the rest just mention them in criminal-tools/drug-paraphernalia type statutes which prohibit use of them or intent/attempt to violate the controlled substance laws et cet. As this is already the law everywhere I'm aware of, it really seems a bit overblown.
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Anonymous said: Yeah it is a misdemeanor for possession spores in Georgia. I guess ill leave em here and come back to them later. Shame that Georgia cant follow 90% of the rest of the country in allowing spores.
Do you have a citation for this? I'm not trying to argue, I just couldn't find anything prohibiting them in a quick five minute search. I've found them listed and classified with a whole slew of other things as a dangerous drug (I believe that's the term) but didn't see anything prohibiting dangerous drugs.
I'm not claiming anything one way or the other, just saying I couldn't find anything.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: johnm214]
#13262196 - 09/28/10 10:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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§ 16-13-72. Sale, distribution, or possession of dangerous drugs
Except as provided for in this article, it shall be unlawful for any person, firm, corporation, or association to sell, give away, barter, exchange, distribute, or possess in this state any dangerous drug, except under the following conditions:
(1) A drug manufacturer, wholesaler, distributor, or supplier holding a license or registration issued in accordance with the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and authorizing the holder to possess dangerous drugs may possess dangerous drugs within this state but may not distribute, sell, exchange, give away, or by any other means supply dangerous drugs without a permit issued by the State Board of Pharmacy. Any drug manufacturer, wholesaler, distributor, or supplier holding a permit issued by the State Board of Pharmacy may sell, give away, exchange, or distribute dangerous drugs within this state, but only to a pharmacy, pharmacist, a practitioner of the healing arts, and educational institutions licensed by the state, or to a drug wholesaler, distributor, or supplier, and only if such distribution is made in the normal course of employment;
(2) A pharmacy may possess dangerous drugs, but the same shall not be sold, given away, bartered, exchanged, or distributed except by a licensed pharmacist in accordance with this article;
(3) A pharmacist may possess dangerous drugs but may sell, give away, barter, exchange, or distribute the same only when he compounds or dispenses the same upon the prescription of a practitioner of the healing arts. No such prescription shall be refilled except upon the authorization of the practitioner who prescribed it;
(4) A practitioner of the healing arts may possess dangerous drugs and may sell, give away, barter, exchange, or distribute the same in accordance with Code Section 16-13-74;
(4.1) A physician in conformity with Code Section 43-34-23 may delegate to a nurse or a physician assistant the authority to possess vaccines and such other drugs as specified by the physician for adverse reactions to those vaccines, and a nurse or physician assistant may possess such drugs pursuant to that delegation; provided, however, that nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to restrict any authority of nurses or physician assistants existing under other provisions of law;
(4.2) A registered professional nurse licensed under Article 1 of Chapter 26 of Title 43 who is employed or engaged by a licensed home health agency may possess sterile saline, sterile water, and diluted heparin for use as intravenous maintenance for use in a home health setting, and such nurse may administer such items to patients of the home health agency upon the order of a licensed physician. The State Board of Pharmacy shall be authorized to adopt regulations governing the storage, quantity, use, and administration of such items; provided, however, nothing in this paragraph or in such regulations shall be construed to restrict any authority of nurses existing under other provisions of law;
(4.3) Possession, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting of Salvia divinorum or Salvia divinorum A strictly for aesthetic, landscaping, or decorative purposes;
(5) A manufacturer's sales representative may distribute a dangerous drug as a complimentary sample only upon the written request of a practitioner. The request must be made for each distribution and shall contain the names and addresses of the supplier and the requestor and the name and quantity of the specific dangerous drug requested. The written request shall be preserved by the manufacturer for a period of two years; and
(6) Such person, firm, corporation, or association shall keep a complete and accurate record of all dangerous drugs received, purchased, manufactured, sold, dispensed, or otherwise disposed of and shall maintain such records for at least two years or in conformance with any other state or federal law or rule issued by the Georgia State Board of Pharmacy.
HISTORY: Code 1933, § 79A-703, enacted by Ga. L. 1967, p. 296, § 1; Ga. L. 1972, p. 948, § 2; Ga. L. 1975, p. 690, § 1; Ga. L. 1982, p. 3, § 16; Ga. L. 1996, p. 356, § 6; Ga. L. 1998, p. 219, § 1; Ga. L. 1999, p. 643, § 5.2; Ga. L. 2003, p. 140, § 16; Ga. L. 2009, p. 859, § 5/HB 509; Ga. L. 2010, p. 905, § 2/HB 1021.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: naum]
#13263218 - 09/29/10 07:31 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which part of that are you claiming relates to spores?
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There is no spore specific statute.
Spores of mushrooms which when mature contain psilocybin or psilocin [trying to mirror the legal text as much as possible with that wording] are considered dangerous drugs in Georgia. Many many innocuous things are listed as dangerous drugs including barium, fluoride, etc. Weird law.
I couldn't find any penalty structure.
So to answer your question: All of that text apparently applies to spores.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: naum]
#13263792 - 09/29/10 10:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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No. None of it applies to spores any more than pipe applies to pipe bombs and copper ore applies to bullets.
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spores are dangerous drugs, thats the applicability.
That was just the statute prohibiting possesion of dangerous drugs- the actual definition is elsewhere.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: johnm214]
#13266421 - 09/29/10 06:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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johnm214 said: spores are dangerous drugs, thats the applicability.
That was just the statute prohibiting possesion of dangerous drugs- the actual definition is elsewhere.
I wasn't aware you could get high on spores.
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> I wasn't aware you could get high on spores.
You can't. Politicians are (mostly) idiots.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: Seuss]
#13267819 - 09/29/10 11:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spores aren't even the half of it
Such other 'dangerous drugs' include mold, cat skin, bees, and gonorrhea test kits.
No word on why gonorrhea test kits rather than syphilis or chlamydia kits are are particularly dangerous 'drugs' but, they're in there.
It may seem strange, but I for one am pleased that they're looking out for my best interests. If left to my own devices, I might buy a chlamydia test kit and there'd be no end to the trouble I could get myself into.
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Re: Customs and spores [Re: Seuss]
#13268674 - 09/30/10 07:15 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > I wasn't aware you could get high on spores.
You can't. Politicians are (mostly) idiots.
The sad thing about the written word is sarcasm can be hard to detect. I know you can't get high on spores.
I agree with your comment about politicians with one exception. I would have said "almost always" as opposed to mostly.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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