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police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen
#13240973 - 09/24/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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theshroom
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: skatealex2]
#13241179 - 09/24/10 03:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Someone who's stoned behind the wheel, that's dangerous"
Oh really? In 2006, there were 4229 traffic-related fatalities in California. 1509 of them were Alcohol-related.
Isn't that weird.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: theshroom]
#13241196 - 09/24/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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That host was annoying as fuck, and ignorant to boot. He didn't even seem to really listen to the logical responses to his questions. Good thing he is in the minority.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: SuperD]
#13241294 - 09/24/10 03:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice! That Joseph McNamara guy said all the right things. Finally someone was able to make the proper response to the "Kids are gonna start smoking weed if its legalized!" fallacy and it left the host with a dumbfounded look on his face as if he couldn't figure that out for himself.
Fact is, the more people that get educated on the FACTS of marijuana, the more people that will support its legalization.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: BirdsIView]
#13241621 - 09/24/10 05:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: dwpineal]
#13241818 - 09/24/10 05:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sometimes I feel like the news media likes to lead the public one way then the other by setting up really simple minded news stories with repetitive arguments.
Or I might just be high.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: 5-HT2A]
#13241856 - 09/24/10 05:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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specifically stoned driving charges seem to me to be a good trade off for legal pot. And honestly, a lot of people are terrible drivers when they use it, including me sometimes.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: mukhail]
#13243890 - 09/25/10 08:15 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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i drive ok stoned for the most part, but not always. driving drunk is 10 times harder.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: cokane]
#13244014 - 09/25/10 09:00 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"If there's some marijuana sitting on the table and a kid walks by and goes HEY I'm gonna smoke that! What's stopping them?"
If there's an insulin syringe with 60ccs of heroin solution sitting on the table and a kid walks by and goes HEY I'm gonna stick that in my neck! Why do you leave your damn needles out stupid
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: cokane]
#13244058 - 09/25/10 09:11 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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smoking an 1/8 in a half an hour and getting behind the wheel yea not the smartest/safest thing to do. not saying i haven't done it but sill not to smart/safe.
dont you love how the vid ends
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Mike711]
#13244203 - 09/25/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know why anyone would be "angry" over this interview.
The interviewer was cordual, and yes, spit out the same nonsense we have all heard. But he barley even had one moment to rebuke anything Mcnamera said! In fact, he completley failed to push any of his points. He literally gave up, if you did not notice. When he was spitting out nonsense about how kids could get pot easier, after Mcnamera made his point, the interviewer conceeded! he said, "yes, yes your right, its parenting".
This is fucking great
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#13244221 - 09/25/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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i drive better on weed than i do sober..
i'm pretty sure i do everything better when i'm stoned.
the only thing i didnt like about the video was the host not honestly listening to the question..
and he keeps calling it pot, that really bugs me...
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Synocybin]
#13244249 - 09/25/10 10:13 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Synocybin said: i drive better on weed than i do sober..
i'm pretty sure i do everything better when i'm stoned.
the only thing i didnt like about the video was the host not honestly listening to the question..
and he keeps calling it pot, that really bugs me...
he did get pwn'd though
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#13244342 - 09/25/10 10:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Since prop 8 didn't pass, I'm wondering if prop 19 will pass... I certainly hope it does.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#13244358 - 09/25/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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As the story goes, it was called reefer, because fishermen would use it to steer their boats through reefs at night. I believe this requires more coordination than most driving.
I believe it's bracing, in safe quantities, and improves stamina in people who are unnerved or nauseous.
I believe that overdose does result in paranoia, which might be dangerous on the interstate, but that DUI's were sometimes dealt with sympathetically in the olden days.
Like pot, I believe the law is a tool. Inanimate, and morally-neutral, it can be used or misused.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Green_T]
#13244367 - 09/25/10 10:49 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think he did a great job. Great video.
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Green_T]
#13244374 - 09/25/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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right, then all the other states need to get on track...
i got a text the other day about legalizing mj and to call a number to sign an electronic petition or something, before all of the e-signing it said if all of the US legalized and taxed marijuana accordingly it would be a $7+ trillion within the next 5 years..
it really would be good for the economy
if only the government would see past social stigmas...
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Synocybin]
#13244411 - 09/25/10 11:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Synocybin said: if all of the US legalized and taxed marijuana accordingly it would be a $7+ trillion within the next 5 years..
That number seems a bit off...US national debt is at about $10 trillion right now
$7 trillion in taxes in 5 years is $1.4 trillion in 1 year $1.4 trillion in taxes for the whole country is over $4,545 in taxes per person per year! I don't know about you, but i'm not going to be spending that much on my bud taxes 
If you meant to say billion, then it would be $4.50 per person per year, which would be reasonable (factoring all the people who won't smoke and grow their own) - which is still a sizeable chunk.
Either way though, there is no denying that it is California's #1 cash crop, and banning people from using it and collecting NO tax on it is absolutely ludicrous. A $14-billion industry, swept under the rug...
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Green_T]
#13244419 - 09/25/10 11:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Green_T said:
Quote:
Synocybin said: if all of the US legalized and taxed marijuana accordingly it would be a $7+ trillion within the next 5 years..
That number seems a bit off...US national debt is at about $10 trillion right now
$7 trillion in taxes in 5 years is $1.4 trillion in 1 year $1.4 trillion in taxes for the whole country is over $4,545 in taxes per person per year! I don't know about you, but i'm not going to be spending that much on my bud taxes 
Either way though, there is no denying that it is California's #1 cash crop, and banning people from using it and collecting NO tax on it is absolutely ludicrous. A $14-billion industry, swept under the rug...
lol maybe it was ten years?
i'll find an article and post up
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Re: police chief on fox news-legalizing pot is the best thing that could happen [Re: Synocybin]
#13244436 - 09/25/10 11:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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$700 billion within 5 years is what it is..
California alone last year raked in $14 billion for taxes that came from they're medical marijuana places..
the government knows these numbers and still refuse to help the country..
yay democracy!
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