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Doc_T
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Spooge]
#13246487 - 09/25/10 07:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to rebuild a door soon, thanks for that info.
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Spooge
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Doc_T]
#13247359 - 09/25/10 11:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I have to rebuild a door soon, thanks for that info.
no problem. I'm not an extreme expert, but I know enough. I'm a locksmith by trade, so ask away if you have any other questions
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Spooge]
#13258316 - 09/28/10 09:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are reinforcing bars that go inside the house and make it almost impossible to kick in a door. You use it when you are home or leave by another door. It props against the floor and the door.
The best burglar deterrent imo is a motion detector hooked up to an ordinary light. The burglar looking for an easy hit approaches the house, light goes on. He figures someone inside saw him and turned it on. Have the light stay on for a few minutes after activating. Even if the burglar is sure it's just a motion detector, neighbors might see the light go on and look. He is now visible and anything he/she does will be seen. Put one or more in front and in back with a time delay so they stay on a while but do go off. It gives cops no probable cause to go inside but does a fairly good job of scaring burglars. Best of all it's dirt cheap. I've seen cheap motion detectors for as low as $5. Get a nice one and hook it to a light you already have or hook one up. Put them by doors and windows. Get the dual spotlight and aim each light. As an added benefit, you could activate a tape recording of a dog inside along with the light. If the burglar isn't scared of the light, the dog may do the job. And you don't have to feed it.
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Stonehenge]
#13258736 - 09/28/10 11:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The best burglar deterrent imo is a motion detector hooked up to an ordinary light. The burglar looking for an easy hit approaches the house, light goes on. He figures someone inside saw him and turned it on.
Great idea. Burlgers would not really expect a motion detector to turn on a floor lamp or ceiling light inside.
Could even put a TV or radio on it too.
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Stonehenge
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Thanks. A light inside would probably do the job but i was thinking of an outside light. It illuminates the burglar and signals the neighbors. Inside, you want a tape or some type of sound player with several segments of a dog barking. Each activation sends it to the next segment or makes it play 20 seconds or so of an endless loop of dog sounds. You can get the infrared motion detectors to stay on for a certain amount of time and shut off or to stay on.
If you were a burglar and came up to a house, suddenly the lights went on outside and you heard a dog barking inside, would you say "this is a good place to break in" or would you get the hell out?
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Stonehenge]
#13264145 - 09/29/10 11:17 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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A burglar is skulking along in the shadows looking to grab something and run unnoticed. Suddenly a light goes on and he is like a bug under a flashlight. He quickly scurries away into the darkness. If he hears a dog bark inside he is even more afraid. He will avoid that whole neighborhood.
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Stonehenge]
#13266702 - 09/29/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: A burglar is skulking along in the shadows looking to grab something and run unnoticed. Suddenly a light goes on and he is like a bug under a flashlight. He quickly scurries away into the darkness. If he hears a dog bark inside he is even more afraid. He will avoid that whole neighborhood.
Maybe, but any not novice burglar would scope out locations ahead of time and would know about dogs in the area plus it'd have to be hooked up to a pretty good system in order to replicate the decibels that a typical dog bark is at. Not to mention it might get pretty annoying if you have rabbits or something of the sort in your area. I live in an area with a lot of feral dogs/hogs/bears for instance and if I heard loud ass barking in the middle of the night from my recorder and it woke me up for a bunny I'd throw it out the window.
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Re: Are Home Security Systems Worth it? [Re: Jiggle]
#13269191 - 09/30/10 10:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can set up the sensitivity to any level you want. You can reject small objects and have it go on for larger objects like dog size on up. You could also turn off the sound when you will be home. The light is the main deterrent and that may be all you need. Hearing a dog bark from inside will discourage them plenty but is just another bell and whistle.
Have a light with motion detector by each door and ideally by each window. One light might illuminate several windows and a door. A bank of aimable spot lights can be set to focus on spots you are concerned about. Most burglars don't like working in a bright light and get nervous when one is switched on suddenly. It looks like someone inside spotted them and turned on the light. Even if they are fairly sure it's automatic, a neighbor might see the light go on, a cop driving by might look over, etc. There is an easier house somewhere else. They will not stick around to think it over, they will think it over while rapidly departing.
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