klondike_bar said:

I want to make a nice changa smoking mix using the modest collection of plant materials currently at my disposal, following some popular mixes (mainly "electric sheep"). This is my idea:

1g of 3X blue lotus flowers
1g of yummy cannabis
500mg of 10X syrian rue extract
1g of DMT

i would dissolve the rue and dmt in naptha and fortify the lotus/cannabis mix with it.

does this sound like a good mixture?

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I would have to suggest this is not a good recipe. For these reasons:

1. It would be a ratio of 1:2.5 DMT to plant (kinda weak, would need to smoke a lot to breakthrough).
2. Blue lotus is useless imo. It's harsh to smoke and has minimal to no effects. I wouldn't bother with it.
3. The syrian rue extract is a liquid isn't it? This might leave your changa overly wet/sticky, not desirable.
4. Many people suggest cannabis clouds the experience of DMT and does nothing to enhance it.

My recommendation is, get some banisteriopsis caapi leaf and either use it plain or make a 10x extract, then infuse your DMT onto that. If you want to add other plants to the mix, don't exceed a 1:1 DMT to plant ratio. Some people use less DMT than 1:1 but I personally wouldn't recommend it as this increases the amount of plant material you'll need to smoke to blast off. And a 1:1 mixture of DMT to b. caapi is SUBLIME, it really is impressive how smooth and effective it is.

Seeing as you already have the syrian rue extract, you might want to explore methods of using it to enhance caapi leaf or another plant. The DMT Nexus is a good place to discuss this with more experienced changa lovers.

Have fun.

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My recommendation is, get some banisteriopsis caapi leaf and either use it plain or make a 10x extract, then infuse your DMT onto that. If you want to add other plants to the mix, don't exceed a 1:1 DMT to plant ratio. Some people use less DMT than 1:1 but I personally wouldn't recommend it as this increases the amount of plant material you'll need to smoke to blast off. And a 1:1 mixture of DMT to b. caapi is SUBLIME, it really is impressive how smooth and effective it is.

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im really stupid when it comes to this sort of thing, but i havent been able to find any info anywhere

1:1 ratio... so that would be equivalent to 1g DMT : 1g Caapi leaf,  right?

how much acetone should be used per this concoction?

Envix said:

1:1 ratio... so that would be equivalent to 1g DMT : 1g Caapi leaf,  right?

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Envix said:

how much acetone should be used per this concoction?

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Envix said:

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My recommendation is, get some banisteriopsis caapi leaf and either use it plain or make a 10x extract, then infuse your DMT onto that. If you want to add other plants to the mix, don't exceed a 1:1 DMT to plant ratio. Some people use less DMT than 1:1 but I personally wouldn't recommend it as this increases the amount of plant material you'll need to smoke to blast off. And a 1:1 mixture of DMT to b. caapi is SUBLIME, it really is impressive how smooth and effective it is.

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im really stupid when it comes to this sort of thing, but i havent been able to find any info anywhere

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Envix said:

how do i make x22 caapi? i only have 2 oz of regular caapi

1:7 ratio.. is that 1 dmt? or 7 dmt?

my dmt is white, i only have 1 gram right now

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Here's what I would do. I assume you have 2oz of caapi leaf. Soak 55 grams of the caapi leaf in a jar with some iso 91-99% for a few days, shaking every day. Filter out the leaf and discard. Pour your alkaloid rich solution over your 1 remaining gram of caapi leaf and let the iso evaporate until dry. Dissolve your 1 gram of DMT in some iso, mix in your gram of super charged caapi leaf then let the iso evap until dry. That will be some fuckin good changa right there.

Envix said:

if i decide to do that how much iso should i use for 49g of caapi? i only have 50g, actually

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Envix said:

with that high an alkaloid concentration could i increase the amount of plain leaf i use?

wut if i put 45g caapi alkaloid solvent on like 5g of leaf, and put the 1g dmt in that


would that be too weak of a blend?

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You can do whatever you want it's your world I'm just passin through.

Envix said:

im askin if u think that would be to weak??

i dont know ive never tried changa before

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The Centre said:

Actually, I have to advise a 1:7 ratio. The reason is that if you smoke your changa properly, then you can break through on 10mg of DMT or less...
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I suggest making an 22x caapi leaf mix and making it in a 1:7 ration with that.

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I did something similar to this last night with 10x caapi changa and a bunch of 10x blue lotus and some mint on top.  Normally I break through way too strongly to the point that I barely remember anything, but with this I could just stay in a strongly psychedelic state, strongly visual and beautiful, and I could juuuuuust hold back from breaking through if I wanted to, or I could hit it just a bit harder and go on in.  This was using  just a tiny pinch of actual DMT enhanced leaf so I'm sure my final ratio was way weaker than 1:7, but it was really nice!  Highly controllable and highly recommended!