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K2 and other weed substitutes.
    #13192251 - 09/13/10 11:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So I got busted awhile back and will likely face some probation time when I go back to court next month. My biggest concern is not being able to smoke weed for what is likely to be a couple of years. I love cannabis. I have already quit for about 6 weeks now, but I miss having a nice pipe at the end of a hard day SO BADLY. So I was thinking of trying K2 or some other substitute, but I had a couple of questions.

For one, I'm not expecting it to be as good as herb, but does it work? I'm just looking for something that will be pleasant to smoke and get me slightly buzzed.

Second, will it make me fail a drug test? At first I thought of course not, but I've heard these substances contain cannabinoids so idk.

I'd appreciate any responses from people who have had experiences with these types of products and drug tests. THANKS!

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13192593 - 09/14/10 01:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know, drug tests testing for Maryjane only actually test for THC, so I doubt any 'spice' product is going to result in a false positive. I really doubt that unless it is controlled in your state, that it would be tested for, as it's not technically illegal.

As far as the buzz, it works, but it is really a 2D / flat high. It's been forever since I've smoked pot, but I could tell after puffing this stuff a few times it wasn't quite as enjoyable, but an acceptable alternative.

You should check out the posts by our 'Spice' vendor on here Wunderland Spice over in the sponsors forums - he always has some kinda deal going on and has a very good product for what it is.

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: c1dh3d]
    #13193552 - 09/14/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

just take about 2 hits and quit or you might shit

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: lurkmode]
    #13193606 - 09/14/10 10:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have to smoke it for reasons that I can't smoke cannabis.  I enjoy the buzz, it gets me higher than giraffe nuts. I usually smoke K2 Summit, or Citron... I find a hit or two does the trick... anymore than that can make you uncomfortably stoned and even sick to your stomach. Be careful where you buy it though, make sure the store is getting it from a legit  seller. There are two stores here, possibly more that are selling knock offs... labels and blend are very similar.

http://www.k2wholesale.com/incense/fake-k2.php


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13194119 - 09/14/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have been smoking legal herbs off and on for the past year. (Due to shortage of real deal in my area at times). I can say, by far my best experiences have came from a legal herb named lucid. Let me warn you, as you already probably know, this stuff is all and almost always laced with research chemicals such as the famous JWH-018 or many others. It may also, have long term effects that are negative, that we do not know yet.

I have had experience with in smoking, legal herbs such as black mamba, red magic, k2, lucid, and allot of stuff that had no name, but said some thing on it like "v3". In my experience, k2's high by far, ends most quickly. Black mamba, to me felt very natural, but its expensive and you do not get as much as you would, if you bought something like redmagic. Also, black mamba, to me, seems to mess up my motor skills some what with in walking.Its high is decent lasting tho compared to k2. Red magic is a great deal, very strong stuff, and you get what looks like allot more than a gram when you buy a gram of it (with in comparing it to the "Gram" that black mamba gives you). Red magic also has a long lasting high compared to k2. In my opinion tho, lucid is the best. The problem with lucid is that you have to order it online. With all the other stuff I mentioned (at least in my area), you can just walk to a gas station/small food store and buy it. To me, each legal herb is its own drug. You can tell a major difference between legal herbs and marijuana if you get a HEAVY full blown intoxication from the legal herbs. I personally feel all of it is addictive- the legal herbs. The only one, I have felt not to be addictive is lucid. With in the others, when I smoke them, then the high subsides, im left feeling very anxious and nervous/twitchy, and like "somethings missing" unless I smoke more to make it go away. I would say if you have to smoke this stuff, keep it to a minimum and no more than a few times a day. Iv smoked it day in and day out before in the past, and trust me, you do not want to do that.

edit- I for got to mention, I herd they now sell stuff called "k4" in lil food stores/ gas stations now, (Iv seen it in the store near were I live). I have read online that, that stuff is extremely strong. If you come across that, do not use a large amount. Over doses are really horrible to allot of people with in legal herbs. I my self have "over dosed" allot on this type of stuff before by mistakes now and then, but you get used to it, and you learn to just wait it out with no problems. 

Edited by Mr.Qabalistic (09/14/10 12:26 PM)

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: Mr.Qabalistic]
    #13194192 - 09/14/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

K2 is something that i had smoked for about a 4 week period of time. i tried all the different varieties and things and the buzz is really nice. 1-2 hits out of a bong and your head is spinning. we were doing 5-6 hits at a time out of a g bong and i couldn't feel limbs and had the most intense couch lock. Essentially all the different kinds are just herb that smoke and everything is spray dusted with a JWH compound.

long term effects are not known and lots of reports are saying irreversible brain damage may occur. use with caution


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: TrIpPin_FaCe]
    #13194202 - 09/14/10 12:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It is very scary/ concerning to think about. I wish I never touched the trash honestly.

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: Mr.Qabalistic]
    #13194340 - 09/14/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have tried K2 and I have gotten very high every time I've tried it. Similar to weed. I find it more in the head rather than a body high that you would get from an Indica strain. But I was still pleasantly surprised at how similar the high was. The taste was not that great but bearable.

As far as I know the legal herbs will not make you fail a drug test which is a nice positive. But i do not know from first-hand experience.

If you're on probation or whatever and can't/don't want to smoke the real deal I think this is an acceptable alternative.


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13194961 - 09/14/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

flow said:
So I got busted awhile back and will likely face some probation time when I go back to court next month. My biggest concern is not being able to smoke weed for what is likely to be a couple of years. I love cannabis. I have already quit for about 6 weeks now, but I miss having a nice pipe at the end of a hard day SO BADLY. So I was thinking of trying K2 or some other substitute, but I had a couple of questions.

For one, I'm not expecting it to be as good as herb, but does it work? I'm just looking for something that will be pleasant to smoke and get me slightly buzzed.

Second, will it make me fail a drug test? At first I thought of course not, but I've heard these substances contain cannabinoids so idk.

I'd appreciate any responses from people who have had experiences with these types of products and drug tests. THANKS!



Quote:

flow said:
So I got busted awhile back and will likely face some probation time when I go back to court next month. My biggest concern is not being able to smoke weed for what is likely to be a couple of years. I love cannabis. I have already quit for about 6 weeks now, but I miss having a nice pipe at the end of a hard day SO BADLY. So I was thinking of trying K2 or some other substitute, but I had a couple of questions.

For one, I'm not expecting it to be as good as herb, but does it work? I'm just looking for something that will be pleasant to smoke and get me slightly buzzed.

Second, will it make me fail a drug test? At first I thought of course not, but I've heard these substances contain cannabinoids so idk.

I'd appreciate any responses from people who have had experiences with these types of products and drug tests. THANKS!




Forget K2, buy the 50 dollar gram of jwh and vape it. It is much much more powerful and your first time you will likely trip out a little. The only problem is any product containing JWH used in excess can make you have an OD, which amounts to puking and being sick. But a couple doses a day (that last 1 and a half hours before coming back down significantly) and you'll feel fine.

K2 is overpriced and underpotent.


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: Seanfu]
    #13195742 - 09/14/10 06:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. The other question I had related to health effects. Anyone notice anything negative? I'm an athlete, and I don't want to fuck up my lungs. Herb seems to help if anything, but I can totally notice tobacco affecting my breathing. Also, there's rumors of brain damage and cancer and whatever, but I'm guessing thats BS.

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: TrIpPin_FaCe]
    #13195751 - 09/14/10 06:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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TrIpPin_FaCe said:lots of reports are saying irreversible brain damage may occur. use with caution






Source?

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: mukhail]
    #13196121 - 09/14/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have been smoking spice.  Yea it gets me really high, higher than weed ever did. I passed a drug test today for a job for my sister, so you will stay clean. 

I make my own personally.  Its a LOT cheaper than buying online, and its easy.  Here is a TEK works well, just make sure to let it dry all the way before you smoke it...

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13196175 - 09/14/10 07:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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flow said:
Cool. The other question I had related to health effects. Anyone notice anything negative? I'm an athlete, and I don't want to fuck up my lungs. Herb seems to help if anything, but I can totally notice tobacco affecting my breathing. Also, there's rumors of brain damage and cancer and whatever, but I'm guessing thats BS.




If you get pure jwh 018 powder you will not even need 1 50th of a gram to get more blown than weed ever did, and it is a single hit that you do not feel enter your lungs. You will not hurt your lungs one bit.


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #13196224 - 09/14/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

cool man thanks for the idea. i may have to try that

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13198405 - 09/15/10 09:31 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Or try some from us, we make an herbal incense spice blend and we are a Shroomery sponser.  Potent aromatherapy properties, multiple scent selection and a buy 1 get 1 free sale for all shroomery members this month.  Wunderland Spice  Basically you can get 6grams shipped to your door of any scent for $30... :cheers:


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: WunderlandSpice]
    #13203539 - 09/16/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i'm sure pure JWH is great and all, but I can't just freebase powder just anywhere you know? :P that'd look horrible at a stop light or out on the trails.


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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: Malachi Constant]
    #13206762 - 09/16/10 09:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

so i brop down and took a trip to the local head shop. picked some up. very pleasantly surprised. Not bad to smoke and buzzed sort of like weed. Its not want I want to be smoking, but for now this will do.

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Re: K2 and other weed substitutes. [Re: flow]
    #13213173 - 09/18/10 08:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

anything you smoke is bad for your lungs bro. the pot culture loves to glorify marijuana, but in all reality its not good for you. it's much harder on the lungs than smoking tobacco.  look at the end of a cigarette but, and then look at the end of a joint or blunt. i know my narghile doesn't resinate like a bong does.

when I ran track in high school, I just ate it. stir some pot in peanut butter, warm it in the microwave, and spread on toast. yum.


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