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Toadie
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Inoculating a casing...
#1321172 - 02/20/03 06:57 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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Is it not possible to simply inoculate the rye grain layer of a casing instead of growing out a bunch of cakes and slicing them up?
I would assume that it would be easier and more efficient, considering your not exposing the casing layer to contamination, plus its microenviroment is already well-established at that point in the rye layer.
Ideas? I may just be totally wrong here, but it sounds reasonable.
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ClosetCase
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Re: Inoculating a casing... [Re: Toadie]
#1321214 - 02/20/03 07:15 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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sounds like a decent idea to me!
You could just put your "cased" substrate in the PC with layers of aluminum foil over it. Then innoculate thru the foil with your syringe at different places.
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tripndicular
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Re: Inoculating a casing... [Re: Toadie]
#1321222 - 02/20/03 07:18 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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You use rye grain in your "casings" ?
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Toadie
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I've never even tried to case before, so i don't really know, but you know what i'm talking about. Whatever your substrate is.
If you have a flowhood and a nice PC, i could see this being alot more productive and easier than doing the cake-to-case technique.
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deanofmean
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Re: Inoculating a casing... [Re: Toadie]
#1321268 - 02/20/03 07:35 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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i'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but maybe with some tweaking, you could use pre sterilized rye grain instead of brf . fast food of the gods nice idea
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Re: Inoculating a casing... [Re: Toadie]
#1321315 - 02/20/03 07:46 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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People who do bulk teks , inoculate grain , then inoc a bulk substrate ie horse dung etc with the fully colonized grain , when the "bulk" sub is fully colonized a "casing" is applied to induce fruiting and aid in moisture levels at the substrates surface . Some folks just add a" casing" layer onto crumbled grain that is fully colonized also , eliminates one step , but affects quality of mushies grown IMHO . Good Luck
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ClosetCase
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Re: Inoculating a casing... [Re: ClosetCase]
#1321683 - 02/20/03 10:19 AM (18 years, 14 days ago) |
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No?
Let me expand... and keep in mind this is for people looking to do smaller casings and NOT bulk.
First, you put your substrate into your CLEAR containter (so you can see when it's fully colonized) at whatever thickness you wish. Then put a layer of vermiculite on top as a contamination barrier. Cover with foil and PC. After it cools you innoculate at multiple spots (more the better) and cover with another layer of foil. Once it is fully colonized, you scrape off the verm layer, and then put your casing layer on top (50/50+ or whatever you wish). Simple as that! 
I don't know if this is good or bad, but it definately is easier and requires less work. Maybe crumbled cake produces better ...I don't know. Maybe this would produce better ...don't know. But I believe it's worth a try or two to see the results. 
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