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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25057995 - 03/12/18 09:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Tipote]
    #25058005 - 03/12/18 09:55 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Robert Reich.
CEO.
Net worth 4 million.
Salary: $242 000.
Average CEO salary: $178 000
He makes 40% more than the average.


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Patlal]
    #25058045 - 03/12/18 10:20 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Robert Reich.
CEO.
Net worth 4 million.
Salary: $242 000.
Average CEO salary: $178 000
He makes 40% more than the average.




Reich is a puppet for the global elite, he's a useful tool.

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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Patlal]
    #25058050 - 03/12/18 10:22 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:lolwut:

Robert Reich is not a CEO; he's a university professor.  So he doesn't get millions in stock bonuses like CEOs.


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman]
    #25058052 - 03/12/18 10:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Reich is a puppet for the global elite, he's a useful tool.



That's a new one.  Care to explain?  :popcorn:


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25058082 - 03/12/18 10:42 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Reich is a puppet for the global elite, he's a useful tool.



That's a new one.  Care to explain?  :popcorn:




In my opinion, he bashes the Wall Street "fat cats" just like Obama did, but like Obama he supports most of the policies that create the massive wealth and income inequality.

He adds legitimacy to many issues (that favor the elite) because he's suppose to be a critic with a liberal bias, he's a fraud in my opinion.

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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman]
    #25058398 - 03/12/18 02:01 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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In my opinion, he bashes the Wall Street "fat cats" just like Obama did, but like Obama he supports most of the policies that create the massive wealth and income inequality.

He adds legitimacy to many issues (that favor the elite) because he's suppose to be a critic with a liberal bias, he's a fraud in my opinion.



I'm still confused.  Can you provide an example of how he supports Wall St over Main St?


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #25058714 - 03/12/18 04:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25058741 - 03/12/18 04:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
In my opinion, he bashes the Wall Street "fat cats" just like Obama did, but like Obama he supports most of the policies that create the massive wealth and income inequality.

He adds legitimacy to many issues (that favor the elite) because he's suppose to be a critic with a liberal bias, he's a fraud in my opinion.



I'm still confused.  Can you provide an example of how he supports Wall St over Main St?




He's been a huge apologist for Fed policy since day one of the financial crisis, we both know Fed policy has been a huge factor in the massive wealth and income inequality growth.

https://www.thenation.com/article/paul-krugman-raises-the-white-flag-on-trade/

He as since changed on "globalization", but his damage had already been done.

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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman] * 1
    #25059046 - 03/12/18 06:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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qman said:
Reich is a puppet for the global elite, he's a useful tool.



That's a new one.  Care to explain?  :popcorn:




In my opinion, he bashes the Wall Street "fat cats" just like Obama did, but like Obama he supports most of the policies that create the massive wealth and income inequality.

He adds legitimacy to many issues (that favor the elite) because he's suppose to be a critic with a liberal bias, he's a fraud in my opinion.




Reich is a lib who worked in the Clinton Administration, but he's doing good work now and has been a vocal supporter of the Bernie "movement" since 2016.

What exactly is he saying that you think is fraudulent? Or is it your contention that he's speaking out against capitalist elites......to protect the capitalist elites?


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman]
    #25059116 - 03/12/18 07:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you provide an example of how he supports Wall St over Main St?



He's been a huge apologist for Fed policy since day one of the financial crisis, we both know Fed policy has been a huge factor in the massive wealth and income inequality growth.



No, we don't both know that.  I've argued with you before that Fed policy was needed to avoid a Great Depression, and it was Fiscal policy that screwed the working class.

You just don't like Reich because he's liberal.


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25059189 - 03/12/18 08:14 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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qman said:
Reich is a puppet for the global elite, he's a useful tool.



That's a new one.  Care to explain?  :popcorn:




In my opinion, he bashes the Wall Street "fat cats" just like Obama did, but like Obama he supports most of the policies that create the massive wealth and income inequality.

He adds legitimacy to many issues (that favor the elite) because he's suppose to be a critic with a liberal bias, he's a fraud in my opinion.




Reich is a lib who worked in the Clinton Administration, but he's doing good work now and has been a vocal supporter of the Bernie "movement" since 2016.

What exactly is he saying that you think is fraudulent? Or is it your contention that he's speaking out against capitalist elites......to protect the capitalist elites?




I said he has been a huge supporter of Fed policy, I find that very problematic and so should every Bernie supporter.

You do realize a person that is "speaking out against capitalist elites" and supporting Fed policy since the 2008 crisis is a major hypocrite? Or really serving the purpose of convincing liberals that Fed policy is a great thing and it shouldn't concern them at all.

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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25059195 - 03/12/18 08:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
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Can you provide an example of how he supports Wall St over Main St?



He's been a huge apologist for Fed policy since day one of the financial crisis, we both know Fed policy has been a huge factor in the massive wealth and income inequality growth.



No, we don't both know that.  I've argued with you before that Fed policy was needed to avoid a Great Depression, and it was Fiscal policy that screwed the working class.

You just don't like Reich because he's liberal.




You do realize Fed policy still exists after the 2008-09 recession? 

"don't like Reich because he's liberal"

I don't even think he's a liberal, he's a phony sellout.

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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman]
    #25059219 - 03/12/18 08:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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You do realize Fed policy still exists after the 2008-09 recession?



Yes, Congress established Fed monetary policy as maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: Rono] * 3
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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: qman] * 1
    #25059822 - 03/13/18 06:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I said he has been a huge supporter of Fed policy, I find that very problematic and so should every Bernie supporter.

You do realize a person that is "speaking out against capitalist elites" and supporting Fed policy since the 2008 crisis is a major hypocrite? Or really serving the purpose of convincing liberals that Fed policy is a great thing and it shouldn't concern them at all.




To me, anyone who claims to support the working class AND is a capitalist is a hypocrite.

So maybe the fact I'm saying he's doing good work alludes to a larger picture. Its politics. Find me anyone remotely involved in it that isnt a hypocrite and I'll get an Ayn Rand tattoo on my forehead.

Alternatively, find me anyone who disputes current Fed policy who doesn't have absolutely glaring fundamental flaws (like Rand Paul).


What Robert Reich is doing is bringing awareness to key issues affecting the working class. But I guess since he makes six figures and has spurious fiscal policy we should throw him in the trash in lieu of all the prominent, pristine voices for the working class out there, like........


This is why the oligarchs win.


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Re: Political Cartoons [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25060099 - 03/13/18 08:46 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:

I said he has been a huge supporter of Fed policy, I find that very problematic and so should every Bernie supporter.

You do realize a person that is "speaking out against capitalist elites" and supporting Fed policy since the 2008 crisis is a major hypocrite? Or really serving the purpose of convincing liberals that Fed policy is a great thing and it shouldn't concern them at all.




To me, anyone who claims to support the working class AND is a capitalist is a hypocrite.

So maybe the fact I'm saying he's doing good work alludes to a larger picture. Its politics. Find me anyone remotely involved in it that isnt a hypocrite and I'll get an Ayn Rand tattoo on my forehead.

Alternatively, find me anyone who disputes current Fed policy who doesn't have absolutely glaring fundamental flaws (like Rand Paul).


What Robert Reich is doing is bringing awareness to key issues affecting the working class. But I guess since he makes six figures and has spurious fiscal policy we should throw him in the trash in lieu of all the prominent, pristine voices for the working class out there, like........


This is why the oligarchs win.




That's a fair assessment and I get that he's "bringing awareness to key issues affecting the working class".

I just have read so many of his articles cheer-leading Fed policy that it makes me sick to read it. Do I believe he truly believes in what he writes about Fed policy?  Not really.

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    #25060599 - 03/13/18 01:41 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah and Bernie is a warhawk. Everyone has problems. Gotta take what we can get in hellworld. And Reich is good, considering our current discourse.


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    #25066323 - 03/15/18 04:56 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)



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    #25072310 - 03/18/18 02:50 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)




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