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 Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? 
#1319563 - 02/19/03 02:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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today is wednesday.....i was planning on loading up substrates into my jars today....then sterilizing on friday because that is the only day i can do it.
will the jars become contaminated within the 2 days?
advice...advice...adivce
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 Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1319645 - 02/19/03 03:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes they will contaminate.
you don't want to wait to sterilize BRF jars.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1319646 - 02/19/03 03:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive loaded jars the day before pcing and didn't have a problem, another day shouldn't hurt.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Roadkill]
#1319677 - 02/19/03 03:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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couldnt he just kill whatever contams pop up in the ole pcer?
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Psychoslut]
#1319777 - 02/19/03 04:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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even if it does contaminate.....wont the bacteria be killed when i sterilize?? i have no choice other than to do this on friday....i just loaded up 8 jars with brf...watver...i will see what happens
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Psychoslut]
#1319826 - 02/19/03 04:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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couldnt he just kill whatever contams pop up in the ole pcer?
Nope
I'll let Anno explain this one...he's much better at it than me.
I did a test...I left 4 jars out...not sterilized.
Within 2 to 3 days they got contaminated.
Do what you want!
I wouldn't do it!
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1319835 - 02/19/03 04:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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load up the jars minus the water.. just add the water before you sterilize.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: DrJoseph]
#1319862 - 02/19/03 04:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck too late...o well....i'll see how many jars survive....its wednesday night, and im sterilizing on friday afternoon, if one or two get lost to contam it wont really matter i still got a shitload of verm and brf
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 Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1319910 - 02/19/03 04:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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a waste of spores . 
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: DrJoseph]
#1319918 - 02/19/03 04:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
load up the jars minus the water.. just add the water before you sterilize.
huh?
that makes no sense whats so ever!!
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Roadkill]
#1320154 - 02/19/03 06:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why didn't you just wait till you had a day to do it all at once? That makes a lot more sense to me. The best thing you can do is be patient and take your time when cultivating mushrooms. Don't rush or half-ass anything. The whole process already takes a good amount of time. Why set yourself back with a mistake when you can just do it the right way the first time? I always take my time and I am yet to have a contamination problem.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
#1320177 - 02/19/03 06:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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basically i have absolutely no privacy in my house, with my dad out of work at home all the time...so i have to go to a friends house to sterilize....if the jars get contaminated i will just wip up another batch at my friends
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1320219 - 02/19/03 06:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh ok. Well, Good Luck Man! You should be ok.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Roadkill]
#1320720 - 02/20/03 12:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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"I did a test...I left 4 jars out...not sterilized.
Within 2 to 3 days they got contaminated"
i would have thought if you left them in a cold place they shouldnt go bad in 2-3 days. were they hot? were there very obvious signs of mould.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: liftedoff420]
#1320732 - 02/20/03 12:21 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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>I'll let Anno explain this one...he's much better at it than me.
Hmmm...
The best method is to prepare the jars, and PC right away.
If you leave the substrate non.sterilized, it will eventually contaminate.
The time until it actually visibly and smellibly  contaminates will depend on many, many factors: the temperature, the kind of substrate, the amoount of contaminats in your room, grain, vermiculite, tools, the kind of those cpontaminats....
It can take 3 days, but it can take only 12 hours, depends.
A sterilization(as we perform it) is never complete.
There is always a certain percentage of contaminants that survives.
The more contaminants there are initially, the more will survive the sterilization process.
The second reason why this is bad, is that the contaminants produce all sorts of potentially hazardous substances. Even if you PC the jars and manage to kill the contaminants completely, the substances will still remain in the substrate and might eventually end up in your shrooms.
Edited by Anno (02/20/03 02:25 AM)
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: Anno]
#1320805 - 02/20/03 02:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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sorry man, i accidently left one jar for 3 days, and you can guess what happened, contams, big smelly ones.
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Re: Loading up substrate and sterilizing later? [Re: mike]
#1320897 - 02/20/03 04:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The second reason why this is bad, is that the contaminants produce all sorts of potentially hazardous substances. Even if you PC the jars and manage to kill the contaminants completely, the substances will still remain in the substrate and might eventually end up in your shrooms."
this would be especially important when growing sclerotia
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