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Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program
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I lover our government.:rofl:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/75198


Monday, September 13, 2010
By Matt Cover

The AIDS awareness symbol is used for earrings and pendants made at a counseling center in Chennai, India. (AP File Photo/M. Lakshman)
(CNSNews.com) – The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.

The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011.
“NIH Announces the Availability of Recovery Act Funds for Competitive Revision Applications,” the grant abstract states. “We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa.”

Because AIDS researchers have been unsuccessful in convincing most adult African men to undergo circumcision, the UCLA study proposes to determine whether researchers can develop an after-sex genitalia-washing regimen that they can then convince uncircumcised African men to follow.

“The aim of the proposed feasibility study is to evaluate the feasibility and acceptability of a post-coital male genital hygiene procedure, which participants will be asked to practice immediately post-coitus or at least 12 hours after,” reads the abstract.

Entitled “Community-Based HIV VCT: South Africa,” the name of the broader umbrella project, the program plans to test how well received the penis-washing regimen is among South African men.
If most of the men in the study wash their genitals after sex, are willing to do so after the study ends, and report that their partners accept the regimen, the researchers will develop another study to see if the “penile cleansing procedure” actually works to prevent HIV infections.
“If we find that men are able to practice consistent washing practices after sex, we will plan to test whether this might protect men from becoming HIV infected in a later study,” the grant says.

The study’s lead investigator Dr. Thomas J. Coates was the fourth highest-funded researcher in the country in 2002 and is currently conducting HIV research on three continents.
CNSNews.com asked both Coates and NIMH the following question: “The Census Bureau says the median household income in the United States is $52,000. How would you explain to the average American mom and dad -- who make $52,000 per year -- that taxing them to pay for this grant was justified?”
Coates, who was unavailable for comment, directed CNSNews.com to ask grant-related questions of his assistant, Darya Freedman, who did not respond.
The NIMH also declined to respond to CNSNews.com’s question.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: blewmeanie]
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Might be worth it. I wonder how many people they taught, and how well?
I mean, we sell things to Africa. The less they die, the more they buy.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said:
“If we find that men are able to practice consistent washing practices after sex, we will plan to test whether this might protect men from becoming HIV infected in a later study,” the grant says.


so whachur saying is that we just spent 800 thousand dollars ona plan that *might* not even make a piss of difference



you think these people would make damn well sure what they're doing is gonna have an effect before they start sinking money into it  :shake:


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Muppet]
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but then again - when has the US government ever thought things through before handing out a blank check to somebody  :lol:


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Muppet]
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I wonder how much of that 800k was spent in Africa, and how much was spent in the US writing reports and doing thangs.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Doc_T]
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no shit, huh  :hehehe:


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: blewmeanie]
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:facepalm: :blush:


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Muppet]
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blewmeanie said:
so whachur saying is that we just spent 800 thousand dollars ona plan that *might* not even make a piss of difference



you think these people would make damn well sure what they're doing is gonna have an effect before they start sinking money into it  :shake:


Usually that's how science works.  You develop a hypothesis and test it.

As far as I know, the ESP/predicting the future program isn't doing so well.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: badchad]
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I've always wondered if that alcohol hand sanitizer could be used as a sex lube to reduce STDs including HIV.
Wonder if I could get a research grant?


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Doc_T]
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Probably.  It's a low risk proposal.  As far as science is concerned, 800k is a crumb's worth of funding.  Of course, getting a grant is no easy task.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

Edited by badchad (09/14/10 09:40 AM)

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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: badchad]
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^^^ agreed, and AIDS so huge a problem that it's not hard to make some progress somewhere, even if you can't solve the whole thing.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Doc_T]
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Alcohol and rubber aren't friends.

But, virucidal condom lube is in the works.

Imagine there was a lube you could put on your dick which would ensure certain anticonception as well as zero microbial transmission. That would be a REALLY awesome inventions saving millions of lives AND working against overpopulation as well.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: blewmeanie]
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I've seen Federal money spent on much more insane-sounding things.

Such as invading Iraq.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Alcohol and rubber aren't friends.

But, virucidal condom lube is in the works.


Condoms aren't popular in Africa.
A realistic solution to their crisis will not feature condoms as a primary focus.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Doc_T]
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Condoms arent popular anywhere. A lube (penal or intravaginally) which would kill any virus bacterium or sperm would be much more readily accepted as its unnatural to use a condom and natural to use lube.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Asante]
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^^^ that's what I said. Hand sanitizer, applied to penis.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Doc_T]
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So Africans don't know how to wash their dicks?

How about spending 1/10th of that money on printing up signs and hanging them all over Africa that say, "Wash your penis or you'll die of AIDS". That might or might not work as well. :rolleyes:

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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: blewmeanie]
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"Welcome to our country! What is the reason for your visit, is it business or pleasure?"

"The United States Government trained me and deployed me to teach you people how to watch your cocks."

:facepalm:

And people say food aid is patronizing.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Asante]
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Before I join on on the laughing and pointing, I thought I'd at least look into the source.  Find a more reputable news source about this, and I might bite.


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Re: Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Before I join on on the laughing and pointing, I thought I'd at least look into the source.  Find a more reputable news source about this, and I might bite.



I'm not seeing much of an issue with their credibility, seems pretty valid by what I'm seeing, this so called controversy for instance shows actual facts, not some glossed over bunch of crap


not to mention three 'controversies'  in 2 years over a span of 8 years
in operation... seems more reliable than most other sources

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