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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: dwtk]
    #13184195 - 09/12/10 12:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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dwtk said:
5 months old


I realized that after I posted.  I'm sure all parties involved have matured immensely in the intervening time.


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: SlashOZ]
    #13184985 - 09/12/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

There are no such people as 'Palestinians'  Palestine refers to a geographical region.


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes]
    #13185060 - 09/12/10 03:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
There are no such people as 'Palestinians'  Palestine refers to a geographical region.



So, there are no such people as "Americans" either?


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Silversoul]
    #13185095 - 09/12/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

As soon as the United States is dissolved... no :awesome:


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Silversoul]
    #13185126 - 09/12/10 03:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I am eager to see a list of the great leaders of the 'Palestinian People' going back several centuries.


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes]
    #13185168 - 09/12/10 03:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I am eager to see a list of the great leaders of the 'Palestinian People' going back several centuries.


The point is that there is a large group of people who consider themselves Palestinians, and the designation is no less arbitrary, ethnically, geographically, and culturally, than that of American, Israeli, Nigerian, Congolese, or Indian; the only difference is that whereas circumstances have conspired to meld the latter regions, comprised of many formerly distinct ethnic and cultural groups, into national entities, the Palestinian territories have never achieved (through the intervention of outside forces and through internal political divisions) that same status.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Lion]
    #13185173 - 09/12/10 03:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Then Israeli's are also Palestinian?


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes]
    #13185188 - 09/12/10 03:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

No, Israelis are Israeli, although many, particularly but not exclusively Muslim Arabs, consider themselves Palestinian-Israeli or Israeli-Palestinian.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes]
    #13185191 - 09/12/10 03:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You do realize that Arab isn't
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starfire_xes said:
There are no such people as 'Palestinians'  Palestine refers to a geographical region.



And Arabic refers to a language, doesn't mean you aren't talking out of your ass.


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: fapjack]
    #13185213 - 09/12/10 03:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not quite sure of your point.


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes]
    #13185236 - 09/12/10 03:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not quite sure of your point.



Naturally. :smirk:


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Silversoul]
    #13185256 - 09/12/10 03:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I am just trying to understand what 'Palestine' is.  Are the references to the geographic region, or the Gaza strip and West Bank, which were occupied by Egypt and Jordan until the 1967 war?


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #13185375 - 09/12/10 03:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The first Zionist settlers referred to the people inhabiting the land between Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt, which was then mostly inhabited by subsistence farmers who had migrated from Jordan and Lebanon, as Palestinians.  They thought these people to be descendants of the Biblical Philistines.  The term Palestine has been used for that region (which is now mostly the state of Israel) for centuries, but it has also had many other names.

The term was later adopted self-referentially by the descendants of the people who were forced off their land by, or sold their land to, the new settlers.  Now it has come to mean the occupants of the territories of Gaza and the West Bank, who are not recognized as citizens by any of the bordering Arab countries; but it could potentially eventually be the name of an independent state in the aforementioned territories, or be incorporated into the name of a single Jewish/Muslim Arab state, Israel-Palestine or Palestine-Israel.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Lion]
    #13185395 - 09/12/10 03:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, that is a good answer.


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