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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: dwtk]
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dwtk said: 5 months old
I realized that after I posted. I'm sure all parties involved have matured immensely in the intervening time.
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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: SlashOZ]
#13184985 - 09/12/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are no such people as 'Palestinians' Palestine refers to a geographical region.
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starfire_xes said: There are no such people as 'Palestinians' Palestine refers to a geographical region.
So, there are no such people as "Americans" either?
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As soon as the United States is dissolved... no
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I am eager to see a list of the great leaders of the 'Palestinian People' going back several centuries.
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starfire_xes said: I am eager to see a list of the great leaders of the 'Palestinian People' going back several centuries.
The point is that there is a large group of people who consider themselves Palestinians, and the designation is no less arbitrary, ethnically, geographically, and culturally, than that of American, Israeli, Nigerian, Congolese, or Indian; the only difference is that whereas circumstances have conspired to meld the latter regions, comprised of many formerly distinct ethnic and cultural groups, into national entities, the Palestinian territories have never achieved (through the intervention of outside forces and through internal political divisions) that same status.
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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Lion]
#13185173 - 09/12/10 03:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then Israeli's are also Palestinian?
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No, Israelis are Israeli, although many, particularly but not exclusively Muslim Arabs, consider themselves Palestinian-Israeli or Israeli-Palestinian.
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You do realize that Arab isn't Quote:
starfire_xes said: There are no such people as 'Palestinians' Palestine refers to a geographical region.
And Arabic refers to a language, doesn't mean you aren't talking out of your ass.
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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: fapjack]
#13185213 - 09/12/10 03:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not quite sure of your point.
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starfire_xes said: I'm not quite sure of your point.
Naturally.
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I am just trying to understand what 'Palestine' is. Are the references to the geographic region, or the Gaza strip and West Bank, which were occupied by Egypt and Jordan until the 1967 war?
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The first Zionist settlers referred to the people inhabiting the land between Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt, which was then mostly inhabited by subsistence farmers who had migrated from Jordan and Lebanon, as Palestinians. They thought these people to be descendants of the Biblical Philistines. The term Palestine has been used for that region (which is now mostly the state of Israel) for centuries, but it has also had many other names.
The term was later adopted self-referentially by the descendants of the people who were forced off their land by, or sold their land to, the new settlers. Now it has come to mean the occupants of the territories of Gaza and the West Bank, who are not recognized as citizens by any of the bordering Arab countries; but it could potentially eventually be the name of an independent state in the aforementioned territories, or be incorporated into the name of a single Jewish/Muslim Arab state, Israel-Palestine or Palestine-Israel.
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Re: Yea, Obama [Re: Lion]
#13185395 - 09/12/10 03:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, that is a good answer.
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