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Offlinethe bizzle
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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #13164502 - 09/08/10 10:57 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you guys' interpretation of oriented is debatable

:orry:


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OfflineI AM SWIM
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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: the bizzle]
    #13164508 - 09/08/10 11:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i liek to orient my thangs in an oriental feng shui kind of way


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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #13164524 - 09/08/10 11:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

:seriousbusiness:


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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: the bizzle]
    #13164801 - 09/08/10 12:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #13168404 - 09/08/10 11:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Its very easy to not be bothered by trolls and suspected trolling.

Don't let your self be provoked! If you are provoked, you are contributing just as much as the provoker. Everyone blames the troll because they can't face their own black hearts.

If the people whining about trolls were courageous and honest, they would find the trolls provocations to be sign posts pointing to their own weakness.

Unfortunately most people can't take it, interpret the situation as a fight, and make the conversation emotional.


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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: Freedom]
    #13170878 - 09/09/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah just keep on doin' your thangs



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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: Freedom]
    #13171012 - 09/09/10 03:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Freedom said:
Its very easy to not be bothered by trolls and suspected trolling.

Don't let your self be provoked! If you are provoked, you are contributing just as much as the provoker. Everyone blames the troll because they can't face their own black hearts.

If the people whining about trolls were courageous and honest, they would find the trolls provocations to be sign posts pointing to their own weakness.

Unfortunately most people can't take it, interpret the situation as a fight, and make the conversation emotional.





And I asked you not to give away the secret. :nonono:


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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #13171763 - 09/09/10 06:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Freedom said:
Its very easy to not be bothered by trolls and suspected trolling.

Don't let your self be provoked! If you are provoked, you are contributing just as much as the provoker. Everyone blames the troll because they can't face their own black hearts.

If the people whining about trolls were courageous and honest, they would find the trolls provocations to be sign posts pointing to their own weakness.

Unfortunately most people can't take it, interpret the situation as a fight, and make the conversation emotional.





I agree.


It is easy not to be bothered by trolls, however
my only problem is the fact that many people cannot spot trolls, and that can completely derail a thread or chances of interesting responses for interesting posts


there are some troll posts that should be completely ignored by all, especially a troll in this phil forum
but it's as if some people don't have the power to spot a troll post, or troll attitude


I guess its because some people want to be humble or respectful enough to give the person the benefit of the doubt, and entertain what they have said as if they were serious, or as if it was something somehow worth taking a bit seriously


if people just grew to the point of completely disregarding troll posts as valid whatsoever, discussion could get a lot farther


but what happens a lot of the time, is that one person makes a post,
then a troll makes a troll post, antagonizing the original poster,
and then the original poster feels (perhaps rightly so) that somebody else is going to take the troll seriously (because they often do), and then feels the need to defend his or her position against the troll


maybe instead we should completely disregard trolls and troll posts altogether
and just continue as if they never said anything, don't let the thread get derailed,
dont defend your position against the troll,
because anybody who took the troll seriously was the fool, not you


and still I think the best option is to stop giving trolls power by acknowledging their posts.
sometimes it might be fun to respond to them, but when they are seriously trying to discredit something interesting just by being an ass,
you should just not take their posts seriously enough to consider them part of the conversation or worth responding to


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not that I haven't done it myself (responded when I actually shouldn't have acknowledged their post at all), but I think really the best thing you can do is ignore them
you can never win an argument with an idiot or asshole on their own terms, so don't even try

don't let them set your conversation back to elementary argument, which they do by changing the focus of conversation to the most irrelevant of mistakes in your post
just ignore them; focus on discussion with those who are actually willing to discuss as opposed to troll you




this should be so easy, but it is so difficult because people are easily trapped by trolls

I have learned simply to laugh at their lame attempts. They think they've "got you," or think they've made some awesome cynical statement, but its actually just laughably pathetic
like I said before, the biggest difficulty is the possibility that someone else won't have the perceptional power to spot the trolling, and the conversation gets derailed successfully by the troll

maybe if we all just start ignoring them, those other people might eventually start to catch on that nobody is taking these trolls seriously

I'm sure not, and its ridiculous that I ever have, but damn it feels so good just to know that these trolls (particularly phil forum trolls) are simply not even worth taking seriously, often even when they seem to be serious. I'm talking about the posts you might not even consider were trolling, just crappy attitudes you want to argue against but really aren't even worth acknowledging










long story short: if you take :feelsbadman: seriously, instead of laughing at how ridiculous it is that he :feelsbadman:, then you will feelsbadman too

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Re: Charcteristics of a Troll [Re: the bizzle]
    #13171886 - 09/09/10 06:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the bizzle said:
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but what happens a lot of the time, is that one person makes a post, then a troll makes a troll post, antagonizing the original poster, and then the original poster feels (perhaps rightly so) that somebody else is going to take the troll seriously (because they often do), and then feels the need to defend his or her position against the troll



This happens a lot when someone starts a post about religion.


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