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Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ)
#13157958 - 09/07/10 12:31 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hate these mushrooms.
I've been trying to ID them for the past two days and I can't even figure out which family they belong in. I'm pretty sure they are in the Agaricales order but I wouldn't be all too surprised to learn that they are actually some species of goat.
If you know what they are, great. If you don't, feel free to share in my loathing of these little brown things-which-may-or-may-not-actually-even-be-fungi.
Habitat These grow from rotting wood in a hardwood forest I go to. Unlike more interesting mushrooms, these seem to be very tolerant of dry weather. I've seen them in quite a few different places there.
Gills pores/gills: Gills color: Pale yellowish, turned light brown after a while from spores. attachment: Attached. Pretty broken now from my futile ID attempts. I don't think they smell like green corn but I don't really go around smelling corn all too often.
Stem length: Up to 1” long diameter: ~2mm color: Light brown. Myc at the base is yellow. texture: Bendable hollow/solid: Too damn small to even tell.
Cap diameter: About 1cm color: The base color looks like it might be yellow or pale orange. It’s almost brown from being covered with tons of little dots. texture: Covered with tiny dots, striate margin. shape: Round convex/concave: Convex
Spore print Some shade of brown that defies all my attempts to categorize it for any of the three keys I’ve tried to use.
Bruising No.
 The hole in the big cap is from printing.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: sve]
#13157986 - 09/07/10 12:41 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gymnopilus
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weiliigod
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#13157998 - 09/07/10 12:45 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was going to say Galerina but gym seems right.... Don't eat in either case.. try noting blue / green bruising.
Although im pretty sure these are inactive.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: weiliigod]
#13158026 - 09/07/10 12:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Gymnopilus
How can you tell which genus they are?
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weiliigod said: I was going to say Galerina but gym seems right.... Don't eat in either case.. try noting blue / green bruising.
Although im pretty sure these are inactive.
No worries, I don't eat random unidentified mushrooms. I didn't notice any bruising and I beat these up pretty well with trying to figure out what they smelled like.
...But damn it. Now I feel bad for hating a Gymnopilus species.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: sve]
#13158050 - 09/07/10 01:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not 100% sure that is what it is. It's hard to ID 100% correctly from your pictures.
it's most likely an inactive gym, though.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: weiliigod]
#13158061 - 09/07/10 01:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alas, that's pretty much as good as my cell phone camera gets. I might be able to get some microscopy photos eventually.
I was just looking at a Gymnopilus key (for the Pacific northwest, which is very much not where I live) and misread the sentence "Galerina spores uniformly have a plage." as "Galerina spores uniformly have the plague." I lolled.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: sve]
#13158770 - 09/07/10 09:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you have Flammulaster erinaceella.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: landsnorkler]
#13158801 - 09/07/10 09:27 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd looked at a page on mushroomexpert.com about that but these all have very visible vertical lines around the edge of the cap. It's harder to see in these photos because the mushrooms had been picked two days prior but the darker area around the edge is all where those lines are. Can a margin like that just be a variation?
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: sve]
#13158839 - 09/07/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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sve said: How can you tell which genus they are?
Spore print color, growing on wood, and the texture of the cap.
Taste a little and spit it out, should be bitter.
Galerina have smooth caps.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#13158856 - 09/07/10 09:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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The spore print looked browner than other Gymnopilus prints I've seen. These have been sitting unrefrigerated in my apartment for 2 days so I don't want to taste them. I'll try it the next time I see them. Is a bitter taste unique for Gymnopilus among brownish wood-lovers?
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: sve]
#13158882 - 09/07/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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sve said: The spore print looked browner than other Gymnopilus prints I've seen.
Good point, Landsnorkler's guess is more accurate.
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These have been sitting unrefrigerated in my apartment for 2 days so I don't want to taste them.
Taste them anyway.
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Is a bitter taste unique for Gymnopilus among brownish wood-lovers?
Not 100% unique but its not common either.
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Re: Fuck you, little brown mushroom - Cortinariaceae? (NJ) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#13158902 - 09/07/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Taste them anyway.
They have mold!
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