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what happened to the constitution??
    #13153824 - 09/06/10 03:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

two big blows this week? first Craigslist, taking a stand against censorship in the process, removed the adult ads from their site after pressure from lawmakers.  Now, a law is in effect governing how people in one atlanta town are allowed to wear their clothes. What happened to freedom of expression?!?! what happened to freedom of speech?! yes, a good majority of those adult ads were for prostitution, but some weren't. where the fuck am I supposed to go to hire a stripper for a bachelor party now (just a hypothetical, legal, reason to visit "adult services".  I am thoroughly pissed, in fact, I feel so passionate about this issue that I am now considering following in my sisters footsteps, and pursuing a career in constitutional law rather than in medicine.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153826 - 09/06/10 03:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Let's take them down!


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153827 - 09/06/10 03:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A lot of those craiglist adult posts are similar to or in some cases the same thing as certain phone book ads. At least in the philly area.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: eris]
    #13153855 - 09/06/10 04:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Some of that pressure is do to violence. Making a tempting as is an easy way for violence to ensue.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: Maurer]
    #13153857 - 09/06/10 04:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sooo skintight spandex pants that leave nothing to the imagination, but are not sagging below the hip would be more legal than baggy jeans that the only thing they really expose is another garment of clothing.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153861 - 09/06/10 04:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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sooo skintight spandex pants that leave nothing to the imagination, but are not sagging below the hip would be more legal than baggy jeans that the only thing they really expose is another garment of clothing.


Yeah if people want to look like whores and leave nothing to the imagination I think they should be allowed too. I was just commenting about the ad thing :shrug:


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: Maurer]
    #13153871 - 09/06/10 04:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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nismo2491 said:
sooo skintight spandex pants that leave nothing to the imagination, but are not sagging below the hip would be more legal than baggy jeans that the only thing they really expose is another garment of clothing.


Yeah if people want to look like whores and leave nothing to the imagination I think they should be allowed too. I was just commenting about the ad thing :shrug:



that wasn't in direct response to anybody's post. just adding it to the conversation as something to think about :smile:


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153873 - 09/06/10 04:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

One of the problems the world is facing is that people can't seem to understand how to moderate themselves or to do the right thing on their own. More often than not people who are older knew how to be honest and fair. Now people push every thing to the limit.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: Maurer]
    #13153876 - 09/06/10 04:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yep.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #13153882 - 09/06/10 04:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

just for clarity and pure transparency, I by no means am saying that people should be walking around with their pants low enough to see their ankles, I am merely arguing for their right to walk around that way. I'm still the first one to laugh at them and ask if their dad knows they raided his closet.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153917 - 09/06/10 05:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can't wait for a chance to actually read the text of the law. i wonder how it would be dealt with to just go walking around Dublin, GA in boxer shorts, and no jeans. I mean, if the law is against saggy pants, I'm not wearing saggy pants, I'm not wearing any pants. and my genitalia are still covered up. Last I check, it was not illegal to just wear boxers and nothing else, though it very well may be in GA.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153922 - 09/06/10 05:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure prostitution is in the constitution.

However, like any other business it should be legal.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #13153936 - 09/06/10 05:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

prostitution and its legality isn't what this argument is about though. its about the right of craigslist to allow people to post in adult services. if the ad says "I'll come fuck you for $20" then it needs to be pulled, but just because most of the ads were for illegal services doesn't mean all were.

  you go into a bar and most of the people there are going to be driving home. some might not be drunk, but I would imagine most will be over the legal limit when they leave. Now yes, some of these people will have a sober driver to drive them home, but the majority won't.  Should we outlaw bars because people drink and drive? 

we should also outlaw grape swishers, honey dutches, etc because most of the people that buy those roll an illegal substance in them.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153945 - 09/06/10 05:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I can't wait for a chance to actually read the text of the law. i wonder how it would be dealt with to just go walking around Dublin, GA in boxer shorts, and no jeans. I mean, if the law is against saggy pants, I'm not wearing saggy pants, I'm not wearing any pants. and my genitalia are still covered up. Last I check, it was not illegal to just wear boxers and nothing else, though it very well may be in GA.




This is always my thought when I hear about laws like this. People want to define sagging your pants as lewd or something because you can see underwear. But it's not illegal to walk around your underwear. What if I wear a pair of pants and then sag another pair of pants on top? What if I construct a pair of pants made entirely of descending boxer shorts? Honestly who the fuck cares how other people dress themselves?


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: F0SS1L]
    #13153948 - 09/06/10 05:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

what if I wear my jeans with a belt tight around my waist, then put a pair of boxers on the outside of the jeans. would I still get a ticket??


anybody wanna go to dublin, GA and try some of these scenarios out with me? could lead to some hilarity!!


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13153954 - 09/06/10 05:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



Here to save the day.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: F0SS1L]
    #13153965 - 09/06/10 05:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yes!!! i couldn't help but think of doug and quail man as I typed that!


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: nismo2491]
    #13154077 - 09/06/10 07:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if prostitution were made legal, would you be against mandatory and frequent blood tests and std screenings?


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #13155210 - 09/06/10 01:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Regarding the rise of Nazi Germany:

Quote:

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.




There are a lot of parallels between what happened then and what's happening today in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

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if prostitution were made legal, would you be against mandatory and frequent blood tests and std screenings?





That's how it works in the Netherlands. Prostitution is legal but you have to get checked out every once in a while, it only makes sense.


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Re: what happened to the constitution?? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #13155429 - 09/06/10 02:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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if prostitution were made legal, would you be against mandatory and frequent blood tests and std screenings?



no, thats totally different. thats like a pilot having to keep his FAA physical up to date. it ensures the safety of the clients/public.


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