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Invisibledaussaulit
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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1332091 - 02/24/03 02:34 PM (21 years, 28 days ago)

It's not the same. RDRAM and DDR are different types of RAM and have different bandwidths. PC1066 RDRAM has a 4.2GB/s, PC800RDRAM has 3.2GB/s bandwidth. DDR333 is 2.7GB/s and DDR266 is 2.1GB/s. From here it gets a little confusing, Dual DDR266 is 4.2GB/s but its slower than PC1066 RDRAM. On Intel's Granite Bay Chipset DDR333 will be faster than Dual-DDR266. And on all AMD boards except for the nForce2 chipset, Dual DDR333 will be faster than Dual DDR 400. Also if your going to go with DDR, you better get CL2 RAM.


Front-side bus
Don't let the funny name fool you. This important component is essential to speedy PC performance. In essence, the bus is a pathway over which data travels between various internal system components. The front-side bus (FSB) is the segment of the system bus that carries data between RAM and the CPU; it generally has the greatest effect on overall benchmark performance. A system with high-performance processors and other components should also have a fast front-side bus. The budget Athlon XP, for example, is paired with a 266MHz or 333MHz FSB, while the faster Pentium 4 uses either a 400MHz or 533MHz system bus. In practice, the FSB will be an issue with only hard-core applications, such as digital video.

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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Penroc3]
    #1333360 - 02/25/03 04:28 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

heh biG hits, not bit hit :wink:

Like the popular games that whole shitloads of people get into....


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Strumpling]
    #1339013 - 02/26/03 09:31 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

haha thanks for the corection :wink: but i have a Ti4800 and i had to swap it into another computer in my house it is about 2 years old now and it is running a 1.4 ghz athalon, and the ti4800 worked just fine in there. and i took the ti4800 out of my brand new comp. 

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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: the free thinker]
    #2299757 - 02/04/04 06:36 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

ha ha actually what I said makes perfect sence I said that Amd's are a mid range chip ( call that an oppinion if you will but I work around computers all day and I don't think you get the same overall performance from an amd processor) .. Celeron is Intel yes but it is there mid range processor ( hence the comparison to AMD which once again I would call mid range ) the only mistake I made was typing intel instead of pentium so appoligies for getting one of my words wrong but what I said was 100% acurate with my statement and it makes perfect sence


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2299774 - 02/04/04 06:53 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

AMD 5 life! that is all ;P

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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2306346 - 02/05/04 06:40 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

In terms of price:performance ratio, AMD is better. Intel is faster in most applications although in some games AMD might get a little ahead.
AMD biggest fault - which is not a fault, just a question of architecture - is memory bandwidth. I'm comparing 32 bit systems, new AMD 64 is "THE" thing, no more memory bandwidth lags compared to intel.

My system at home
AMD Athlon XP 2800 Barton @3000 (10.5*200)
512 DDR Mb Ram (2*256 - dual mode)
Board ASUS A7N8X Deluxe (2*ethernet+2*firewire+8*USB2.0+Sound 5.1)
80 Gb SATA
DVR+-recorder
Powercolor Radeon 9800SE with the 4 extra functional pipelines and 256bit mem bus <- I had luck with this one :grin:

3DMark2003 -> 5640
Aquamark -> 41700

MAIA


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #2306409 - 02/05/04 07:00 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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Cubieman420 said:
After looking at many different motherboards I have not found one for an AMD XP that offers a FSB of 533Mhz. Athlon XP's run at 333Mhz, does this mean that the motherboard cannot have an FSB of more that 333Mhz? And a second question, a P4 runs at 533Mhz while an AMD XP is 333Mhz, where/ how would this make a differnce, and what are some distinct advantages of each CPU? Sorry for the all these technical questions but I really need to make a smart descesion so I don't have to upgrade after this for a long time.




Well most has been explained already but let me add that RDRAM is quad pumped where DDR is dual. So 333mhz on DDR means two 166mhz channels, 533mhz on intel (with RDRAM) chip means it has 4 channels at 133mhz each. At the end the intel system will have in fact more memory bandwidth. Games like Quake3 run faster on Intel systems because they like more memory bandwidth, games like UT2003 are equal running on similar systems as they are less mem. band. dependant.
Talking about nforce2 chips, i have one and i love it. If you notice my system specs, i bought a 2800 XP Barton at 333Mhz FSB, very cheap compared to the 3000@400, the funny thing is that you can reach 3000 speed just by lowering the multiplier and then raising the fsb from 333 to 400mhz, the nominal speed is just more 70 mhz (as AMD PRs are very misleading) but then i have a synchronous bus with my 200mhz ram, which btw are two 256 sticks just to take advantage of the dual DDR the nforce2 is capable of. The performance increase was evident....

MAIA


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: MAIA]
    #2307414 - 02/06/04 12:03 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, I've used AMD's for years, and I've been very satisfied with both price and performance.

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