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OfflineCubieman420
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AMD or INTEL...help
    #1314828 - 02/17/03 05:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hello, I am in the market for a new motherboard and processor. My comp. currently has an AMD athlon 1Ghz processor 448SDRAM, and a GeForce 4 Ti4200 video card. This setup is not bad in any way at all, but I can tell that in a year or so my comp will be struggling to play the top end games which will blow dick. So my question is, if you had to start from scratch and basically rebuild your computer, would you go with a P4 or AMD XP? I have noticed (on newegg.com) that a 2.8Ghz P4 is actaully cheaper than an anthlon XP 2800(2.25?Ghz) which is strange because in stores Pentiums are usually more expensive. Another question I have is; with my Ti4200 videocard, could I pop it into a motherboard with an 8x AGP port? because obviously if I am going to spring around 500-600$ for this upgrade I definetely want 8x AGP! Thanks!


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1314917 - 02/17/03 06:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Intel is the better quality chip

AMD is considered your midrange chip it is better quality than celleron but not as good as intel . if you can afford it I would go an intel chip. make no mistake though there is nothing wrong with AMD it's just usually slightly cheaper for a reason


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    #1315463 - 02/17/03 10:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1315747 - 02/18/03 03:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

>could I pop it into a motherboard with an 8x AGP port?
Depends, some older models are able to use the new slot (yes, the bastards AGAIN made a new slot, so one can?t use most older AGP cards anymore...)


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Anonymous]
    #1315754 - 02/18/03 03:38 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Bullshit. AMD is the far superior chip these days.
Even Intel admits their low range P4's are slower than their high range P3's...
Check out the AMD 2400. They're also much less expensive than Intel. I've always bought AMD and I'll continue doing so.




100% agreement.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: ]
    #1316599 - 02/18/03 11:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I use both...... but for my gaming PC I have Intel P4 3.06 G, 3 GB Ram . GeForce4 Ti 4800 and Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum EX very nice song card


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1316790 - 02/18/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I just finished building my new comp today. P4 3.06 with a ATI 9700 PRO AIW.

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I have noticed (on newegg.com) that a 2.8Ghz P4 is actaully cheaper than an anthlon XP 2800(2.25?Ghz) which is strange because in stores Pentiums are usually more expensive.



The reason the Athlon xp 2800 and 3000 are more expensive is because AMD just released it, while the P4 3.06 has been out for months and the 2.8 ghz has been out even longer.

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with my Ti4200 videocard, could I pop it into a motherboard with an 8x AGP port?



If your motherboard can support a 2.8 ghz processor, then there's 99.99999% change that it will not conflict.
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because obviously if I am going to spring around 500-600$ for this upgrade I definetely want 8x AGP!



Unless that TI4200 has 8x AGP(which I don't remember it having) your card will only run at 4x agp. It doesn't matter now anyways, there's no game that can even utilize 8x agp. You can't even notice the difference between 4x and 8x agp.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: daussaulit]
    #1317097 - 02/18/03 03:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for your responses, I think I am going to go w/ an Athlon XP 2700 and a motherboard that has Nforce 2 on it. The reason I want an 8x AGP port badly is because I imagine in a while i am going to want to ge a gforceFX 8x agp card.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1317165 - 02/18/03 04:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

MY OPINION is that Intels suck and AMDs are a hell of a lot better. AMDs are cheaper, function better for the uses you may put it to, and tend to run faster than advertised. Its also easier to overclock an AMD.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1322462 - 02/20/03 03:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

VGA ASUS|V9280TD GF4 Ti4200 8X 64M (Qty=1,Price=125.99)
CPU AMD|2100+ 1.73 ATHLONXP TBRED% (Qty=1,Price=93.00)
MB NFORCE2 A7N8X-UAY ASUS RTL (Qty=1,Price=118.99)
CPU FAN AMD/INTEL | VOLCANO 7 RTL (Qty=1,Price=15.00)

I've got the CPU running at 2.6ghz and the videocard at 300/600

Benchmarcks are around 13000-14000

The AMD 2100 B overclocks very well.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Pure]
    #1322661 - 02/20/03 04:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Intel is the better quality chip

AMD is considered your midrange chip it is better quality than celleron but not as good as intel . if you can afford it I would go an intel chip. make no mistake though there is nothing wrong with AMD it's just usually slightly cheaper for a reason





Do you have any idea what you're talking about? I don't think so. First of all the Celeron processor IS an intel so what you said doesn't make sense. Second, you're right things are always slightly cheaper for a reason, but the reason isn't always because it isn't a qualiy product. AMD's are the fucking shit. The original T-Birds outperformed P4's at LOWER clock speeds! Now that's pretty humiliating for Intel, don't ya think?

Go AMD.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1327904 - 02/23/03 03:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It depends on what your uses are. Both the athlon and the P4 are strong chips in their own way. If I was you I woudl wait a few months for the new amd chips to be coming out. They are the claw hammer which are 64 bit. If time is a problem though you should asses what is important to you and what is less important. If price is your main factor then go with the AMD. If performance is the main thing and your not worried about money go with the p4. Right now the p4 3.06 ghz blows any amd out of the water because of its hyperthreading capabilities. Thats only on the 3.06 model which is quite expensive. But what it comes down to is what is important to you. Hope that helps


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1328473 - 02/23/03 11:27 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I like AMD way better than intel.
I have both and when I build another it will be AMD

Intel lost my support when they made the celeron.

+ if you go with AMD u can save on your heating bill :wink: 


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Chills420 version2]
    #1330621 - 02/24/03 06:33 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If you're a gamer or into graphic-design, you may wanna go with an Athlon. If you're more on the audio-side of things, producing music or things like that, then a Pentium may be better suited towards your needs.

My 2 cents


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Strumpling]
    #1330691 - 02/24/03 07:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

P4's are just hyped up calculators, go for the amd. better yet get a mac


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Penroc3]
    #1331362 - 02/24/03 11:33 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Its all a matter of how he's going to use the computer....

For instance, if you're STRICTLY a gamer, then there's no WAY you'd want to get a MAC, because there are only about 25% of the games available (75% of all the BIG HITS), and they're mostly all released LATE as well..... However for production (like if you were MAKING games instead..), Macs are awesome..

Its all relative..

What are you going to use the computer for?


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Strumpling]
    #1331722 - 02/24/03 02:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I mainly just use the computer for games, but I do edit video as well, but as long as you have lots of ram and a big hardrive, a PC will do fine with adobe premiere. I really think I will go with an AMD XP 2700, I want a 2800 but the difference if 100 bucks! I need about 250$ more for this upgrade and I don't have a job. But I figure by the time I get a job and get the money I need, the price may drop and I can afford a 2800. Hopefully my ti4200 will work in an 8x AGP slot otherwise I will have to wait even longer until I can afford and FX or an 8X ti4600 which would suck.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Strumpling]
    #1331765 - 02/24/03 02:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

just wondering what you are calling a BIT HIT??


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Penroc3]
    #1331849 - 02/24/03 03:09 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

After looking at many different motherboards I have not found one for an AMD XP that offers a FSB of 533Mhz. Athlon XP's run at 333Mhz, does this mean that the motherboard cannot have an FSB of more that 333Mhz? And a second question, a P4 runs at 533Mhz while an AMD XP is 333Mhz, where/ how would this make a differnce, and what are some distinct advantages of each CPU? Sorry for the all these technical questions but I really need to make a smart descesion so I don't have to upgrade after this for a long time.


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Re: AMD or INTEL...help [Re: Cubieman420]
    #1331918 - 02/24/03 03:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Try here. Choose motherboard selector. I don't know if they have what you want but it can't hurt to try.

http://www.motherboardmaster.com/


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