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Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone
    #13145064 - 09/03/10 10:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So the other day I texted a friend if I could 'come by and get one'.  He texted back 'yea come on'.  Me and a friend drive over to his house and are greeted by around 20 cops who had hours earlier raided his home.  Turns out I was texting with the cop.  The detectives drill me asking why I was there and I simply say to visit a friend.  They insist I was there to buy oxycontin and lock me and my friend up. 

Now, I never said I was there to get oxycontin or to buy drugs of any sort. Just if 'I could come get one'. Yet they still charged us with 'attempt to purchase'.  I'm wondering if this will hold up in court.  They are pressuring me to admit guilt and join the drug court program.  I've yet to talk with a lawyer as I just got out of jail.  What do you guys think will happen with this?  What would the consequences be if I fight it and lose?  I have one prior felony for picking mushrooms but completed my probation without event.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13145277 - 09/03/10 11:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Don't admit anything at all. They don't have a very strong case without your confession.

Definitely talk to a lawyer/public defender and see what your options are.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13146284 - 09/04/10 10:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The detectives drill me asking why I was there and I simply say to visit a friend.





you shouldn't have said anything.

"hey wtf are you doing here"
"well i would rather talk to me lawyer if you are going to be interviewing me sir."

"wellll im just askin some questions"
"so it's an interview? i'd like my lawyer.. BTW am i free to go? or am i being detained"


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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13146393 - 09/04/10 10:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

no worries man should easily be thrown out especially if you did not specify what your were going to buy...thats a pretty weak case get a lawyer though and don't admit to anything.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13146714 - 09/04/10 12:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What else did you tell the cop?

The case as it sounds from your description doesn't even sound enough to get you past a prelimenary hearing on those charges.

And who was telling you to enter the drug program?  What was that about?  I can't imagine you had a prosecutor or whatever offering this to you, so it must have been a piggy.

Cops can't promise you shit- ever.  Nothing they say can be used to your advantage- they lie and you can't hold them to their word.

Finally, I have NEVER seen any situation in which a cop decides who enters a drug rehab program. 

This sounds like the same old bullshit of cops threatening years in jail if you don't "help out" and "start working with us instead of against us" when they don't have the ability to do anything at all about your sentence, and almost nothing about your charges, one way or the other.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: johnm214]
    #13146931 - 09/04/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Man that sucks i really wish u the best of luck wih that. listen to everyone though and get a lawyer/pd i think u should be ok.


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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: johnm214]
    #13147092 - 09/04/10 01:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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What else did you tell the cop?

The case as it sounds from your description doesn't even sound enough to get you past a prelimenary hearing on those charges.

And who was telling you to enter the drug program?  What was that about?  I can't imagine you had a prosecutor or whatever offering this to you, so it must have been a piggy.

Cops can't promise you shit- ever.  Nothing they say can be used to your advantage- they lie and you can't hold them to their word.

Finally, I have NEVER seen any situation in which a cop decides who enters a drug rehab program. 

This sounds like the same old bullshit of cops threatening years in jail if you don't "help out" and "start working with us instead of against us" when they don't have the ability to do anything at all about your sentence, and almost nothing about your charges, one way or the other.




They threatened me with so many things at first. Saying they were gonna put me away for 30 years unless I 'stopped playing games'.  I told them no I am not here for drugs and dont do drugs at all.  But proceeded to call me a dopehead.  They recovered oxycontin, valium, and marijuana from the house, along with ALOT of stolen property.  I had nothing to do with any of that. 

The judge at first appearance recommended I enter drug court(which would give me a free bond) and upon completion it would wipe away the felony.  Which sounds somewhat enticing when your in jail.  I have until next Friday to say yes or no to it. Which I am most likely saying no.  I do wonder what the consequences might be though if I lose? Jail time? 

The guys house who was raided needed to go down.  He was connected with 55 burglaries including 3 pharmacy burglaries.  If I were to admit I was there for drugs that would surely help them put this guy away.  So they arrested me and my friend in hopes of us playing it safe and pleading guilty, taking drug court.  I believe...

But I never once said I was there for drugs. They found nothing on me. All they have is the text message.  I'm pretty sure the guy who was raided will tell the cops I was there to buy drugs in hopes of a lesser sentence.  He's looking at a lot of time. 

The drug court lawyer assured me that this would not be dropped and jurys dont care about entrapment.  And that I would most likely lose.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13149373 - 09/05/10 04:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Drug court lawyer? Is the a court appointed lawyer? I would interview him on his answers - What are my options? Why would that be an automatic lose?

If there is no agreement to exchange money, I'd find it hard to believe they could pin anything on you as far as 'purchasing' goes. That being the case, I find it incredibly hard to believe that you were texting a cop, because he didn't bait you into giving him a rock solid statement. Furthermore, how did he know by 'come by and get one', that you meant an Oxy? You said there was stolen property, pot, and a decent cache of pharmaceuticals - how would they have figured you were coming there specifically for an Oxy unless you or your friend specifically told them?

Either you let something slip, or you got set up by your friend, if either of those are the case you are not in good shape. I'd see if your drug court lawyer can get a copy of the official police report in front of the both of you, and review it with them - this should indicate exactly what kind of evidence they have on you.

Good luck man, remember, don't ever ever EVER say ANYTHING to police!

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: c1dh3d]
    #13149557 - 09/05/10 07:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The guys house who was raided needed to go down.  He was connected with 55 burglaries including 3 pharmacy burglaries.  If I were to admit I was there for drugs that would surely help them put this guy away.  So they arrested me and my friend in hopes of us playing it safe and pleading guilty, taking drug court.  I believe...




They've already got him with drugs (possibly packaged for retail?) and stolen property, they don't need any testimony from you to help put this guy away. They just want to up their statistics.


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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: c1dh3d]
    #13149584 - 09/05/10 07:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Drug court lawyer? Is the a court appointed lawyer? I would interview him on his answers - What are my options? Why would that be an automatic lose?

If there is no agreement to exchange money, I'd find it hard to believe they could pin anything on you as far as 'purchasing' goes. That being the case, I find it incredibly hard to believe that you were texting a cop, because he didn't bait you into giving him a rock solid statement. Furthermore, how did he know by 'come by and get one', that you meant an Oxy? You said there was stolen property, pot, and a decent cache of pharmaceuticals - how would they have figured you were coming there specifically for an Oxy unless you or your friend specifically told them?

Either you let something slip, or you got set up by your friend, if either of those are the case you are not in good shape. I'd see if your drug court lawyer can get a copy of the official police report in front of the both of you, and review it with them - this should indicate exactly what kind of evidence they have on you.

Good luck man, remember, don't ever ever EVER say ANYTHING to police!




I was thinking the lawyer was my court appointed lawyer but after receiving my bond they gave me a card to call on Wednesday to get an appointed lawyer.  I dont know, I'm still confused.  There was absolutely no agreement to exchange money.  They asked me several times how much I was gonna pay him.  I told them I'm not here to buy anything.  The only thing I can think of is that maybe the guys house who was raided cooperated with the cops and told them I was there for oxy.  I never ever ever said I was there for an oxy though. Nor did my friend I was with.

When I went to first appearence the judge was reading my report and said that I admitted to being there to purchase oxy.  But I never said that.  I'm not completely stupid! :wink: 

I realize now I should of said nothing.  But I thought I was walking away.  They had nothing on me afterall.  This Tuesday I will talk with some lawyers and get a copy of the report.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: NizzyJones]
    #13149594 - 09/05/10 07:39 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The guys house who was raided needed to go down.  He was connected with 55 burglaries including 3 pharmacy burglaries.  If I were to admit I was there for drugs that would surely help them put this guy away.  So they arrested me and my friend in hopes of us playing it safe and pleading guilty, taking drug court.  I believe...




They've already got him with drugs (possibly packaged for retail?) and stolen property, they don't need any testimony from you to help put this guy away. They just want to up their statistics.




Your probably right.  They got him for possession of all those drugs with intent to sell.  This was a pretty huge bust where I live and was all over the news.  It said 3 connected with robberies leads to 5 more arrests.  A guy came there about 30mins before me and admitted he was there to get oxy.  That must be why they assumed I was there for oxy too.  Though at one point they asked me so what are you here for? And they listed off all the drugs in the house.  I said I'm here for nothing and dont do drugs. Then they continued to assume I was there for oxy...

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13149655 - 09/05/10 08:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Here is what I would do. Say that you are really embarrased and you didn't say this before because you were embarrased, but you were going over there to have your dick sucked by another man. I am not trolling, you could really try this. That is what you meant by "get one".

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13149659 - 09/05/10 08:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah man you really got to wait and see what they are going to charge you with, it of course can't be possession since you didn't even have any.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #13149673 - 09/05/10 08:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Here is what I would do. Say that you are really embarrased and you didn't say this before because you were embarrased, but you were going over there to have your dick sucked by another man. I am not trolling, you could really try this. That is what you meant by "get one".




Lol.  Well thats kind of what I told them.  The house was owned by a women I've known for sometime. The guy with all the drugs was her new boyfriend.  When the cops were asking me why I was there at one point I said to see a girl I like.

They seperated me and my friend right away and interviewed us both.  He told the cops 'one' was a soda!  I busted out laughing when he told me that later on.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: rezen]
    #13149688 - 09/05/10 08:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah man you really got to wait and see what they are going to charge you with, it of course can't be possession since you didn't even have any.




Yea I agree. I've looked everywhere online to find out what the penalties for Criminal Attempt to Purchase are and I cant find anything.  When I search for it the only thing that comes up is my fucking case!  I hope it doesnt carry the same as Possession of Oxy because thats 2-15 years in prison.  Or 1-5 years in jail for first offender.  And I dont think I have my first offender anymore.

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13149713 - 09/05/10 08:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Here is what I would do. Say that you are really embarrased and you didn't say this before because you were embarrased, but you were going over there to have your dick sucked by another man. I am not trolling, you could really try this. That is what you meant by "get one".




Lol.  Well thats kind of what I told them.  The house was owned by a women I've known for sometime. The guy with all the drugs was her new boyfriend.  When the cops were asking me why I was there at one point I said to see a girl I like.

They seperated me and my friend right away and interviewed us both.  He told the cops 'one' was a soda!  I busted out laughing when he told me that later on.



HAHAH "hey man can I come over to your house and get a soda?" :haha:

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: mastacheefa]
    #13149884 - 09/05/10 09:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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They seperated me and my friend right away and interviewed us both.  He told the cops 'one' was a soda!  I busted out laughing when he told me that later on.




this is the kind of shit that will get your ass pwnt in court.

you shouldn't have said anything.


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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: k00laid]
    #13150205 - 09/05/10 10:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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mastacheefa said:
They seperated me and my friend right away and interviewed us both.  He told the cops 'one' was a soda!  I busted out laughing when he told me that later on.




this is the kind of shit that will get your ass pwnt in court.

you shouldn't have said anything.




QFT. I know this has been posted many times but it bears repeating:

DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES


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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: NizzyJones]
    #13152010 - 09/05/10 06:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

can cops take over a person's phone like that and pose as the individual who owns the phone??? if so that scummy shit

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Re: Criminal Attempt to Purchase Oxycodone [Re: lovecheese]
    #13152051 - 09/05/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You bet your ass they can, and will, if they are able to access it. You should always have an unlock pattern / number on your phone if possible.

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