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Ginseng1
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If you're feeling doubtul...
#13126527 - 08/30/10 09:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mooji to the rescue!
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Ginseng1]
#13126584 - 08/30/10 09:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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MOOOOJ
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Ginseng1]
#13126586 - 08/30/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Ginseng1]
#13126588 - 08/30/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey man, I don't know what it was but when I watched that something came up from inside me and I had the biggest smile and my eyes became tearful with joy. Thanks for that.
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AlphaFalfa
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#13126609 - 08/30/10 10:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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This guy is bullshitting....he has no clue just how much his preconditioning affects him....
lol transended the mind - the very concept of transcendence is in the mind.
This guy seems like any other dude in the world, with his traditional beliefs about sexuality and family.
He doesn't offer me much in that sense, as these are the most troubling issues i have ever faced.
He also has no idea what its like to live in a western way of life and try and live these beliefs. He is just another fad that will come and go, like the rest of the Guru's because he has no real relevant info for people with our lifestyle.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#13126681 - 08/30/10 10:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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He's from London, so he knows something about the West.
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MOOJI
Short biography
Anthony Paul Moo-Young was born on 29 January 1954 in Port Antonio, Jamaica. In 1969, he moved to the UK and he is presently living in Brixton, London. Anthony worked in London's 'West end' as a street portrait artist for many years, then as a painter and a stained glass artist, and later as a teacher at Brixton College. For a long time, he was well known as Tony Moo, but is now affectionately known as Mooji* by the many seekers and friends who visit him.
Mooji is a direct disciple of Sri Harilal Poonja, the renowned advaita master, or Papaji, as his followers call him. In 1987, a chance meeting with a Christian mystic was to be a life-changing encounter for Mooji. It brought him, through prayer, into the direct experience of the Divine within. Within a short period, he experienced a radical shift in consciousness so profound that outwardly, he seemed, to many who knew him, to be an entirely different person. As his spiritual consciousness awakened, a deep inner transformation began which unfolded in the form of many miraculous experiences and mystical insights. He felt a strong wind of change blowing through his life which brought with it a deep urge to surrender completely to divine will. Shortly after, he stopped teaching, left his home and began a life of quiet simplicity and surrender to the will of God as it manifested spontaneously within him. A great peace entered his being, and has remained ever since.
For the following six years, Mooji drifted in a state of spontaneous meditation oblivious to the outer world he formally knew. During these years, he lived almost penniless but was constantly absorbed in inner joy, contentment and natural meditation. Grace came in the form of his sister Julianne, who welcomed Mooji into her home with loving kindness, and afforded him the time and space he much needed to flower spiritually, without the usual pressures and demands of external life. Mooji refers to this period of his life as his "wilderness years" and speaks touchingly of a deep feeling of being "seated on the Lap of God". In many respects, these were far from easy times for Mooji, yet there is no trace of regret or remorse in his tone as he recounts these years. On the contrary, he speaks of this phase of his life as being richly blessed and abundant in grace, trust and loving devotion.
In late 1993, Mooji travelled to India. He had a desire to visit Dakshineswar in Calcutta where Sri Ramakrishna, the great Bengali Saint, had lived and taught. The words and life of Ramakrishna were a source of inspiration and encouragement to Mooji in the early years of his spiritual development. He loved the Saint deeply but as fate would determine, he would not go to Calcutta. While in Rishikesh, a holy place at the foothills of the Himalayas, he was to have another propitious encounter; this time with three devotees of the great advaita Master Sri Harilal Poonja, known to his many devotees as Papaji. Their persistent invitation to Mooji to travel with them to meet the Master made a deep impression on him. Still he delayed the prospect of meeting Papaji for two whole weeks, choosing first to visit Varanasi, the holy city.
In late November 1993, Mooji travelled to Indira Nagar in Lucknow to meet Papaji. It was to be an auspicious and profoundly significant experience on his spiritual journey. He felt it to be his good fortune; he had met a living Buddha, a fully enlightened master. He gradually came to recognise that Papaji was his Guru. Mooji stayed with Papaji for several months. During one particular satsang meeting, Papaji told him: “If you desire to be one with truth, 'you' must completely disappear.” On hearing this, great anger arose within his mind, full of judgement and resistance towards Papaji. He decided to leave the master's presence for good, but later that day a huge dark cloud of anger and rebelliousness suddenly lifted, leaving his mind in a state of such peace, emptiness and a love towards the master, so intense, that he knew he could not leave. Through 'Papaji's' grace, his mind was pushed back into the emptiness of source.
In 1994, with his Master's blessings he travelled down to Sri Ramanasramam in Tiruvannamalai. This is the ashram at the foot of Arunachala, the 'Hill of Fire', where Sri Ramana Maharshi*, the Sage of Arunachala and Papaji's Guru, had lived and taught. Mooji felt very happy and at home in Tiruvannamalai. He stayed there for almost three months before returning to sit at Papaji's feet once again.
A week after returning to Lucknow, Mooji received news from London that his eldest son had died suddenly of pneumonia. He returned to England. The bliss of earlier years gave way to a profound emptiness and inner silence, imparted by the Grace and Presence of Papaji.
Mooji visited Papaji again in 1997. It was to be his last meeting with his Beloved Master, who had by now become ill and frail in his movements, but whose inner light and presence remained undiminished. A month after returning to London, Mooji received news that the Master had passed away. Of this Mooji declares: "That Principle that manifests as the Master is ever HERE NOW. The True Master never dies, it is the mister that dies. The true Master, that Sat Guru* within, alone is the Real".
Since 1999, Mooji has been sharing satsang in the form of spontaneous encounters, retreats, satsang intensives and one-to-one meetings with the many seekers who visit him, from all parts of the world, in search of the direct experience of truth. Few amongst the modern teachers of the advaita tradition expound the 'knowledge of Self', and the method of self-enquiry, with such dazzling clarity, love and authority. There is an energy that radiates from Mooji's presence, a kind of impersonal intimacy, full of love, joy and a curious mix of playfulness and authority. His style is direct, clear, compassionate and often humorous. Once caught in the grip of his questions, there seems to be no place to hide. So unsparing is his scrutiny and uncompromising stance, that the 'I' concept is inescapably exposed as a mental construction, when viewed from the formless awareness we are.
Presently Mooji shares satsang in Brixton, London, where he lives. He also travels regularly to Ireland, Wales, Italy and India where he conducts satsangs and retreats. He is ever open to meeting sincere seekers of truth, whatever their background.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#13127637 - 08/31/10 05:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: Hey man, I don't know what it was but when I watched that something came up from inside me and I had the biggest smile and my eyes became tearful with joy. Thanks for that.
The perfume arising from your Self, sniff out & follow this scent to the source...
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#13128202 - 08/31/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: This guy is bullshitting....he has no clue just how much his preconditioning affects him....
lol transended the mind - the very concept of transcendence is in the mind.
This guy seems like any other dude in the world, with his traditional beliefs about sexuality and family.
I tend to agree. But at least he's not advocating war.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#13129934 - 08/31/10 05:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: This guy is bullshitting....he has no clue just how much his preconditioning affects him....
lol transended the mind - the very concept of transcendence is in the mind.
This guy seems like any other dude in the world, with his traditional beliefs about sexuality and family.
He doesn't offer me much in that sense, as these are the most troubling issues i have ever faced.
He also has no idea what its like to live in a western way of life and try and live these beliefs. He is just another fad that will come and go, like the rest of the Guru's because he has no real relevant info for people with our lifestyle.
Did you watch the clip? If you did, I couldn't tell it from this post. You rambled about things that he didn't even touch on, and actually claimed he said things that he said the exact opposite of.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Ginseng1]
#13129986 - 08/31/10 05:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Totally, totally, totally possible. 
Man : "I know it is possible to see it, is it possible to live it?"
Mooji : "No, there is nobody who can live it. There's no one who can live it because in the seeing of it there's nobody there to live it - and this is freedom."
The enlightened never know their 'own' enlightenment?
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa] 1
#13133069 - 09/01/10 10:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:lol transended the mind - the very concept of transcendence is in the mind.
Brilliant. Walking is just a concept too, but when you actually do it it's not a concept.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Lion]
#13133372 - 09/01/10 12:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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But if not a concept, what is walking? Doing? And if transcendence of mind is not something you do, What is it?
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Ginseng1]
#13133483 - 09/01/10 12:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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If this body is me, and there is not a singular something apart from this body within this body, then to who does this body belong? To itself?
If enlightenment is reached, then it is a something out there to be attained. Who attains it. Does it attain itself?
haiku:
wind still only the leaves are moving by themselves all alone now high up in the tree
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Kickle] 1
#13133508 - 09/01/10 12:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kickle said: if transcendence of mind is not something you do, What is it?
Something that is already so
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AlphaFalfa
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: Chronic7]
#13133771 - 09/01/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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All he is realizing is that he is not the mind.
Thats really about it; quite good, but he obviously is still pretty dissatisfied and quite restless judging by the tone of his voice.
i would say its due to his preconditioned thoughts and how its really difficult to change them....
Cmon lets be honest, whatever the man has is merly a concept, a way to interpret what happens inside our knoggen, the mind.
Once you realize you are not the mind, thats great, but then your left with an ever bigger problem; the Mind still believes it is the mind and hence this is why MOOJi old boy doesn't seems frustrated like the rest of us.
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Re: If you're feeling doubtul... [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#13134664 - 09/01/10 04:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree that he is dissatisfied and restless. I also agree that the mind remains the mind even after you see that you are not the mind.
The two observations are linked in more ways than one.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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