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Re: Nihilism [Re: Swami]
    #1313683 - 02/17/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Damn was that a good essay.  So intense, I think it made me sweat. :tongue:

Everyone should read it (9+ pages)... it's kind of thick, but to rephrase it would make it like 30 pages.

Two thumbs up for Mack Tanner.   


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Re: Nihilism [Re: ]
    #1314609 - 02/17/03 02:40 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

M_M: Philosophy trumps science.

Since when have they been at odds?

Maybe you meant: Philosophy trumps scientism.
In that case, I agree.


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Re: Nihilism [Re: ]
    #1314930 - 02/17/03 04:31 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Aristotle was a dandy.

Humans aren't better than non-conscious beings... we're just more conscious. Sure, it's great... woohoo I'm conscious. Ethics and morals (and scales, for that matter) are all irrelevant to animals... but I know you know that.
Lame deer... can't even think...[/Homer Simpson voice]



So I'm lost... what's going on here?


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Re: Nihilism [Re: Nomad]
    #1316069 - 02/18/03 05:37 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

God is a concept in us...

Anything else is a lie.


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Re: Nihilism [Re: Nomad]
    #1316314 - 02/18/03 08:09 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Fine.... God is ONLY a concept.


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Re: Nihilism [Re: GRTUD]
    #1320514 - 02/19/03 06:41 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Oh great... [/sarcasm]

Now religion is the measuring stick of humanness?


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Re: Nihilism [Re: nubious]
    #1321511 - 02/20/03 07:03 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I can SHOW you how David Blaine "floated"... I used to be seriously into magic tricks when I was in high school (NO, I didn't do shows... just a hobby). Blaine's "floating" stunt is a combination of performance and camera tricks (they showed this on FOX's expose on magicians a few years back).


but how do you explain things that can't be explained?

I don't think you're understanding correctly... you're assuming there is a need to explain the "unexplainable" and/or that there are such things.

Being able to be comfortable with unknowns is a cornerstone of my personal philosophy. It's a terrific stress-reducer... even in dark times. Like last year, my roommate flipped out and tried to kill me and a friend (literally- I'll spare you the details)... though I faced hardships because of the incident (broken this... broken that... money problems... court dates interfering with my schedule...), I was still happy. Sure, there were times that I felt like crap... but those moments were fleeting. As a shroomerite here recently said, "Pain is inevitable, suffering isn't."


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Re: Nihilism [Re: David_Scape]
    #1321516 - 02/20/03 07:06 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

DS: 99% solid? His definition of Myth(the word the article is practically based on) is flawed. I dont know about you but that tells me the structure is weaker than 99%.

He uses modifiers to help compensate for his lack of sufficient terminology.
SECULAR myths
PARANORMAL myths

I thought he got his point across... though I agree, it wasn't perfect.


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Re: Nihilism [Re: nubious]
    #1323981 - 02/21/03 04:56 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I really don't know what you're trying to argue here...

How about this: you connect the dots for me (nihilism---->schizophrenia) and I'll get back to you when I understand your thesis.


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