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Offlinesilowsibin
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Clarification on some things
    #1312892 - 02/16/03 09:34 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Reading through this very informative site has led me to the following conclusions:

1. using vermiculite in combination with the brown rice flour and water creates a substrate. this is what the spores are injected into.

2. innoculation is where the spores are added to the prepared substrate through a syringe and are then left to sit.

3. incubation of the innoculated cakes (in 1/2 pint wide mouth jars) should be done in an environment near 80 degrees farenheight (23 - 25 celcius) with little or no light.

4. mycelium will grow (shown by a white fuzz on the cakes). after the cake is all white it is ready to fruit.

5. by placing the fully developed cakes in a refrigerator for 4 - 6 hours with no light you are encourageing primordia pins (baby mushrooms)

6. fruiting is done by removing the cake from the jar and placing it in an envirnment where the humidity is high (95 - 99%) and the temperature is near room temp.

6a. the cake is placed on a slightly raised surface above moist perlite (small fragments of very porus volcanic rock) which can increase the ambient humidty to suitable levels without the need of any other type of humidfyier.

7. when large mushrooms are visible on the cake, after the veil has broken, they are ready to remove.

8. by removing all of the large fully developed mushrooms and the abhorts (small aborted mushrooms that are high in potency) you can coax another flush from the cake by leaving it in the fruiting environment.

this is my perception of the basic growing technique for mushrooms (garned from reading like 30 explanations of the PF TEK).

tell me if i am wrong or if i have a general understanding of the wonderfull world of mycology.

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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1312896 - 02/16/03 09:41 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds good to me

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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1312899 - 02/16/03 09:43 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

That sounds about right.

There is doubt as to whether #5 does anything at all.


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1312906 - 02/16/03 09:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

conceivably, if the myceluim can recover from the shock, could you grow a very large cake and then break it apart and scatter it over a large area? if this is possible, could one just innoculate like 20 litres of substrate and have a "mushroom patch" growing in their basement along a large table?

and one more question, during the fruiting stage, is there a need to worry about contamination? or is the main problem with that innoculation and the development of other molds and fugus on the myceluim as opposed to the actual mushroom?

I am thinking that the substrate at the right enviroment levels (light conditions, humidity levels and temperature range) facilitates all sorts of molds and fungus, but the basic idea is to make sure the only fugus that grows is the one you want. are there varying environemnts that other fungus develop at? or is the fact that they all reach full maturity in the same environment.

Could one extract the characteristics of the fastest growing fungi in the world and then combine it with a psylocibin spore and exploit the aggressive nature of the other mold, while maintaining the effects of the magic mushroom material.

sorry for the barage of questions, understanding all of this has made me somewhat giddy, like this is a whole new world.

that and the fact that i just smoked a bowl. if any of the ideas are stupid and stonerish, just reply and I will remove them, not sure what the policies are surrounded innebriation while posting.


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1312929 - 02/16/03 10:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

You can use cakes as spawn, but I wouldn't reccomend using jars other than the half pints.



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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1312941 - 02/16/03 10:25 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

and the spawn would be the substrate enriched with the mycelium that would be added to a large amount of substrate and then spread over a large area... correct?

if this is correct, how can one deal with contamination, or is the large area covered, like the bottom of a large tupperware container and then placed in a very humid environment (subsonic humidifier) with light in the mix and encouraged to grow mushrooms?


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1313322 - 02/17/03 05:26 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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6. fruiting is done by removing the cake from the jar and placing it in an envirnment where the humidity is high (95 - 99%) and the temperature is near room temp.
 



Don't forget air-exchange!  :grin: 


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1313355 - 02/17/03 05:48 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

A lot of newbies would find this post extremely helpful.


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: Cherk]
    #1313406 - 02/17/03 06:28 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

No doubt a very good post.
5 shrooms for silowsibin
Looks like someone actually looked at the FAQ


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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: Chills420 version2]
    #1315836 - 02/18/03 03:29 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

just a quick question, would the cold shock and no light process (taking a cake that is ready to birth and placing it in the fridge for 4 - 10 hours) an adaptatiation of what happens in the wild?

seems like the best flushes of mushrooms comes after we get a few cold nights, not totally frost inducing, but atleast colder than normal (2 - 7 degrees celcius).

is that what this step is attempting to mimick?

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Re: Clarification on some things [Re: silowsibin]
    #1315859 - 02/18/03 03:49 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Yes by cold shocking your telling it winters here so it better fruit quick time before it gets real cold.But in saying that P.cubensis is a tropical spiecies so will rarely if ever reach your fridge temps in the wild.
I think its a trigger to most autum fruiting species and its certainly the case for libs in the wild.
What do you mean by no light?just when its in the fridge or what?as you need light to give the shrooms direction to grow in.But of course 4 to 6 hours of darkness in the fridge isnt a problem.


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