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What's the difference.......
    #1312733 - 02/16/03 09:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

between a terrorist and a rebel?

I want to see what others have to say then I'll give my ideas.


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: ]
    #1312739 - 02/16/03 09:36 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A terrorist may call himself a Rebel, an established authority regime may call a rebel a terrorist. The difference may be purely perspective.

It depends on where your coming from here..



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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1312806 - 02/16/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I guess what I meant was in terms of the media.

People in one part of the world kidnap and murder a bunch of civilians.
People in another part of the world blow up a building and kill civilians.
People in another part of the world blow up a tour bus full of civilians.
People in another part of the world hold 800 civilians hostage and a quarter of them end up dying during the rescue.

I don't see what's different between what is going on here. You have people pissed off at the political body of some country so they act out by killing civilians that live in that country. I myself don't think it's necessary to draw a distinction between the above cases. Our media however does.

Near as I can tell:

Attacking the USA or our closest allies = Terrorism = The entire worlds problem
Attacking our not so close allies or enemies = Rebels = Local Issue



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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: ]
    #1313060 - 02/17/03 02:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

re?bel
intr.v. re?belled, re?bel?ling, re?bels
To refuse allegiance to and oppose by force an established government or ruling authority.
To resist or defy an authority or a generally accepted convention.
To feel or express strong unwillingness or repugnance: She rebelled at the unwelcome suggestion

ter?ror?ist
n.
\Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke

One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

I used these definitions to see the educational difference without my opinion, not to mock you.

there is a huge difference between the two


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: ]
    #1313114 - 02/17/03 03:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A terrorist is not necessarily a rebel, nor is a rebel necessarily a terrorist.

Ghandi was a rebel. Martin Luther King was a rebel. Neither was a terrorist.

Carlos the Jackal was a terrorist, as was (maybe still is) Moammar Ghadaffi. Neither was a rebel.

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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1313772 - 02/17/03 11:18 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ter?ror?ist
n.
\Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke


Not a very helpful definition without a definition of terrorism. According to Merriam-Webster online

Main Entry: ter?ror?ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter?ror?ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
- ter?ror?is?tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

and, from that, terror

Main Entry: ter?ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French terreur, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
Date: 14th century
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
3 : REIGN OF TERROR
4 : violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands
synonym see FEAR
- ter?ror?less /-l&s/ adjective

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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: MushyMay]
    #1313989 - 02/17/03 12:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

thanks..i noticed after posting it but got distracted...


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1315506 - 02/17/03 10:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I guess my question was more like why does our media calll certain groups one or the other. i've seen a lot of examples of people commiting what could be considered an act of terrorism yet they are called rebels. what osama bin laden does certainly fits the description of rebel but that's NEVER what he is referred to as.


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1315516 - 02/17/03 10:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

what the US thinks is a terrorist is some one who
has

To many
Eratic
Realizations
Regarding
Obvious
Recurring
International
State
Terror


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: ]
    #1315540 - 02/17/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

What's the post above me supposed to mean anyway?

But, on to your question...

what osama bin laden does certainly fits the description of rebel

How so? If we follow the definition provided by Inny

1. To refuse allegiance to and oppose by force an established government or ruling authority.

He did not establish a government or ruling authority in the county he opposed by force with ( the US).

2. To resist or defy an authority or a generally accepted convention.

In that sense, I'll agree and say he can be defined as a rebel.


But he did use force, but not to topple our government, just to make a statement. Just to prove we can be attacked, we can have blood spilt on our land.
He did not mount an offensive with continued combat on US soil, it was an isolated attack. I think that's what makes him a terrorist.


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: ]
    #1315641 - 02/18/03 12:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

****what osama bin laden does certainly fits the description of rebel but that's NEVER what he is referred to as.****

Are you high?...


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: Skikid16]
    #1315950 - 02/18/03 06:38 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

"what osama bin laden does certainly fits the description of rebel

How so? If we follow the definition provided by Inny"

"To refuse allegiance to and oppose by force an established government or ruling authority."

Osama believes that he is fighting against a massive force of evil. He thinks that by converting the entire world to Islam he will be carrying out God's will.



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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: Phluck]
    #1315974 - 02/18/03 06:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Use Skikids definition...i can't edit mine

Main Entry: ter?ror?ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter?ror?ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
- ter?ror?is?tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective


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Re: What's the difference....... [Re: Phluck]
    #1316716 - 02/18/03 01:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Regardless of what he believes, he is not mounting an opposition to an existing government with the intentions of installing his own. He, I, you, everyone knows that he cannot topple the US government with his existing resources, and he'd be very hard pressed to aquire those needed resources without drawing attention to himself and his whereabouts.


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