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I can spot a narc from eye contact.
    #13119619 - 08/29/10 03:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so moved into my new apt right off campus at a very large university, and let me tell you the undercover police force is HUGE! my first night chillin in the courtyard smoking hookah with friends, we were approached by a seemingly stonerish looking kid, back pack to the side, pony tail. well he initiates a convo about us smoking hookah and probably wanting to buy some weed, he said that he was selling and to shoot him a text, gave some random kid his numba and said text me and say pizza if you need anything! as soon as he walked away I told everyone he was definately a narc forsure. No-one does that especially if their selling bud on a college campus. Next order of business is while roaming the nightlife a few experienced frattt pep told me about undercovers who walk through the courtyard with backpaks doing that shit, well I was right aha. Then after that night me and my boy went down to the courtyard, it is 6am on a sunday morning, im trippin pretty hard and hes drunk. I notice someone longboarding around and think o.k. thats just some guy, then I take a glance to my right prob 5 min later and its the guy again, listening to an ipod, skating on a longboard, 6am after a saturday night! no-one that is normal would be doing this they would most definately be hammered sleeping next to a keg not longboarding with an ipod, and what confirmed it was my direct eye contact as he flew by it was if he was trying to not look but I caught it and he instantly darted off! aha I know I sound like im insane, some longboarder just skating well it wasn't and I now know that ima have to watch my p's and q's on this part of town. but something about tripping turns my sketch instincts into full force and I like it! :laugh:

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13119640 - 08/29/10 03:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
I know I sound like im insane, some longboarder just skating well it wasn't and I now know that ima have to watch my p's and q's on this part of town. but something about tripping turns my sketch instincts into full force and I like it! :laugh:




No offense, but you should consider the fact that you may be a paranoid schizophrenic.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: HaplessHero]
    #13119710 - 08/29/10 03:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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HaplessHero said:
No offense, but you should consider the fact that you may be a paranoid schizophrenic.




seriously... and since when have cops cared about the people BUYING dime sacs... they only care about the sellers for the most part.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: John]
    #13121747 - 08/29/10 10:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Better to be safe than sorry even tho the long boarding dude was probably just a student. He was just scared away by you guys mean mugging him tripping face lol. As far as Mr. Pizza goes just ask him if he wants to go halves on a joint or a lil bowl session. If he starts trying to dominate conversation and build up his character with a series of stupid stories before asking uncomfortable questions, then he might be a U.C. He wouldn't risk blowing his cover by busting someone with .25 or .5 of weed, but if he asks too many questions just make up some bullshit to leave. Don't ask him if he is a cop just use your best judgment. You are drawing hasty conclusions, maybe the dude is just really non chalant and has no common sense. You can do your own detective work if you are a smooth talker, just don't come off as sketch. He might be weirded out and avoid you if he thinks your sketch.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: HaplessHero]
    #13121780 - 08/29/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

ahha I knew someone would say i'm crazy lol but no really I totally understood the go halves on a bowl kinda thing, under federal guidelines during an undercover investigation they can't even take as far as a hit without causing all the evidence to be thrown out, but what also fuels my suspicion is the location of a police office literally floors away, and police station a block away. I have no reason to worry I keep my shit 100%, the longboarder was def suspicious, ipod on, 5am saturday night, zooming around us like a shark, hell maybe i was trippin but things that are not normal just bug out on me when i am.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13122656 - 08/30/10 07:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Gorlax said:under federal guidelines during an undercover investigation they can't even take as far as a hit without causing all the evidence to be thrown out




This is why this forum is a bad idea.

People like you come in here and say the most foolish things.
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(d) Immunity of Federal, State, local and other officials

    Except as provided in sections 2234 and 2235 of title 18, no civil or criminal liability shall be imposed by virtue of this subchapter upon any duly authorized Federal officer lawfully engaged in the enforcement of this subchapter, or upon any duly authorized officer of any State, territory, political subdivision thereof, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States, who shall be lawfully engaged in the enforcement of any law or municipal ordinance relating to controlled substances.

    (Pub. L. 91-513, title II, Sec. 515, Oct. 27, 1970, 84 Stat. 1279.)

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Are Police Allowed to Break The Law?
Police officers working undercover have exceptions from certain criminal laws. For instance, law enforcement officers directly engaged in the enforcement of controlled substance laws are exempt from laws surrounding the purchase, possession, sales or use of illegal substances.7

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Do undercover police have to reveal their identity when asked? officers in particular are very skilled at manipulating suspects and concocting clever stories to conceal that they are police. Note that police can also use drugs and do other things you wouldn't expect a cop to do.

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Please don't give advice.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #13122775 - 08/30/10 08:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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John said:
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HaplessHero said:
No offense, but you should consider the fact that you may be a paranoid schizophrenic.




seriously... and since when have cops cared about the people BUYING dime sacs... they only care about the sellers for the most part.





Never seen an cops show, they do sales....

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Gorlax said:under federal guidelines during an undercover investigation they can't even take as far as a hit without causing all the evidence to be thrown out




This is why this forum is a bad idea.

People like you come in here and say the most foolish things.
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    Except as provided in sections 2234 and 2235 of title 18, no civil or criminal liability shall be imposed by virtue of this subchapter upon any duly authorized Federal officer lawfully engaged in the enforcement of this subchapter, or upon any duly authorized officer of any State, territory, political subdivision thereof, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States, who shall be lawfully engaged in the enforcement of any law or municipal ordinance relating to controlled substances.

    (Pub. L. 91-513, title II, Sec. 515, Oct. 27, 1970, 84 Stat. 1279.)

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Are Police Allowed to Break The Law?
Police officers working undercover have exceptions from certain criminal laws. For instance, law enforcement officers directly engaged in the enforcement of controlled substance laws are exempt from laws surrounding the purchase, possession, sales or use of illegal substances.7

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Do undercover police have to reveal their identity when asked? officers in particular are very skilled at manipulating suspects and concocting clever stories to conceal that they are police. Note that police can also use drugs and do other things you wouldn't expect a cop to do.

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Please don't give advice.





They can go as far as they need to, get the person or people doing it....911 change all that....


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13122945 - 08/30/10 09:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Doing drugs with the person is a good way to see if they are legit or not even then some cops can do drugs to infiltrate distribution rings if it is worth doing so. If I don't do some shit with you I aint buying some shit from you.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: rezen]
    #13123597 - 08/30/10 12:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

its not stupid at all, I was told by a completely random person to watch for the exact fucking thing I saw without me even mentioning it, coincidence or truth, you do the probability.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13124616 - 08/30/10 03:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

just cause you are paroniod dosent mean someone isint out to get you

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13125203 - 08/30/10 05:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

freshman, lol


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: 2859558484]
    #13127445 - 08/31/10 02:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The bit where he asked for the code word "pizza" cracked me up.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13127929 - 08/31/10 08:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
my first night chillin in the courtyard smoking hookah with friends, we were approached by a seemingly stonerish looking kid, back pack to the side, pony tail. well he initiates a convo about us smoking hookah and probably wanting to buy some weed, he said that he was selling and to shoot him a text, gave some random kid his numba and said text me and say pizza if you need anything!




a person i used to know would walk around campus and just go up to random people asking "you want some weed" "i've got grams"..

it isn't unheard of imo.

just by eye contact? yeah..


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: nopalero]
    #13128395 - 08/31/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

haha it isn't normal idk where you guys are from but it just isn't here. I'm not some newbie kid, i've been through this shit dealt with it and understand how shit works, pep don't walk up to random pep right next to cop stations saying they got weed and to text them saying pizza if u want some, so ok, bash it all you want but honestly i dont give a fuck i had suspicion instant he came by and it was confirmed later by other source. case closed they exist.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Brainiac]
    #13128925 - 08/31/10 01:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Brainiac said:
They can go as far as they need to, get the person or people doing it....911 change all that....




Actually, that was true before 9/11.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13131010 - 08/31/10 08:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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haha it isn't normal idk where you guys are from but it just isn't here. I'm not some newbie kid, i've been through this shit dealt with it and understand how shit works, pep don't walk up to random pep right next to cop stations saying they got weed and to text them saying pizza if u want some, so ok, bash it all you want but honestly i dont give a fuck i had suspicion instant he came by and it was confirmed later by other source. case closed they exist.




Thats how I met my first mushroom source, complete random... He told me to call them pizzas too lol


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #13131561 - 08/31/10 10:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Gorlax said:under federal guidelines during an undercover investigation they can't even take as far as a hit without causing all the evidence to be thrown out




This is why this forum is a bad idea.

People like you come in here and say the most foolish things.





Discussion leads to knowledge, I don't think the forum is a bad idea.  The problem is people having confidence in things they have no reason to be confident of, and presuming that which they have no reason to presume.


Gorlax:
As for the law, even without it, what does it matter?

Lets say it is a felony for them to take a hit, ok.  So what?  So now the cop commited a felony- your still going down.


People confuse this issue all the time.  Just cuz a cop breaks the law doesn't mean shit, and it certainly doesn't mean your not getting convicted and incarcerated.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13131715 - 08/31/10 11:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

your source was some random frat guy, which almost always means they are a huge faggot. He was probably a freshman too.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: johnm214]
    #13138065 - 09/02/10 11:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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johnm214 said:Discussion leads to knowledge, I don't think the forum is a bad idea.  The problem is people having confidence in things they have no reason to be confident of, and presuming that which they have no reason to presume.




I'll agree discussion leads to knowledge, however I still think this forum is a bad idea.

The large variation in state laws, combined with the astonishing ignorance demonstrated by a great many posters here, make getting good advice a crap shoot.

The only solution I see to make this a better, more worthwhile forum, would be to require any poster giving advice to provide a link to the relevant information. A link to a site where people chat willy-nilly about stuff wouldn't cut it. I'm suggesting a link to the actual law. Want to provide advice to someone in NY? Provide a link to the law in the NY state web site. Want to give advice to someone in Utah? Provide the link to the Utah state website.

The benefits are twofold. 1st, the poster now gets an education as to what the law actually says, not what he or she heard it says. 2nd, the OP now gets accurate advice or information. It's a win for both sides.

This forum could be of great benefit. As it stands now, it's not much better than a rumor mill.

This would require some heavy moderation. As you go out of your way to give good advice, I think you'd be a good moderator.



Granted... you come across a bit cranky once in awhile... but if it comes to an occasionally cranky moderator who provides good advice or the current fuck-fest... I'll vote for the crank.

No offense meant with the "cranky" label. I'd label myself an asshole, so cranky is OK.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #13190480 - 09/13/10 05:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, well i watched 3 kids get arrested. their was 2 full beers next to them and they were in the jersey's, I believe they are employed only for this purpose of undercover work. and the reason for lack of info in the first place with this post is because its the internet anyone can see it.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #13197341 - 09/15/10 12:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the props

I've thought about the bullshit that gets said in here too, and the best thing I could imagine is a system where if somebody claims something is true, gets called on it, and can't back his position, that he gets a warning, and next time a forum ban- or something like that.


The problem I have is not people speculating or spreading rumors, its people declaring rumors as facts- "They can't charge you if the landlord calls them in without a warrant" vs "I thought the landlord can't enter without notice- so wouldn't the evidence be inadmissible?" or something.

I don't know though, seems like it'd be tough to do and pretty much unworkable.  It just seems people should be a lot more careful in what they say given how serious an effect wrong information can have when dealing with the law.

Basically something like that would just get persistent douchbags from misinforming people or whatever, which is I guess all you can really do.  We could call it the "Stonehenge" rule : )

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: johnm214]
    #13197532 - 09/15/10 01:23 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus, that guy doesn't need to be doing drugs.


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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: johnm214]
    #13199230 - 09/15/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I've thought about the bullshit that gets said in here too, and the best thing I could imagine is a system where if somebody claims something is true, gets called on it, and can't back his position, that he gets a warning, and next time a forum ban- or something like that.





I think its working pretty well the way it is - When people say something wrong someone calls them on it.


I sometimes see people post misinformation but its usually noobs and they only do it once.  I would ban someone if they kept posting misinformation but I have never seen that happen.

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #13199574 - 09/15/10 02:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I don't see anything that could really be done except for incorrigible problems- and I don't think he's been posting much since you became mod (though I was away for a year so I don't know).

I'm just surprised when people post things as fact and certainty.  Seems like the more informed the poster is the more tentative their conclusions are

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Re: I can spot a narc from eye contact. [Re: Gorlax]
    #13235047 - 09/23/10 09:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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ahha I knew someone would say i'm crazy lol but no really I totally understood the go halves on a bowl kinda thing, under federal guidelines during an undercover investigation they can't even take as far as a hit without causing all the evidence to be thrown out, but what also fuels my suspicion is the location of a police office literally floors away, and police station a block away. I have no reason to worry I keep my shit 100%, the longboarder was def suspicious, ipod on, 5am saturday night, zooming around us like a shark, hell maybe i was trippin but things that are not normal just bug out on me when i am.




so first red flag about that guy is the ipod while longboarding(let alone the ipod). that guy wont hear a bulldozer dozing bulls. second he is an attention whore for riding longboard around people and making eye contact (lowering his focus on the dangerous task at hand)


...then again he may rip the streets like a serpent

meh.. ill prefer to make fun of him


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