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OfflineJizzlesMcGee
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Unique casing indeed
    #1311574 - 02/16/03 12:06 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

hey dude's I want to know how this casing sounds to all the experienced pro's out there.  I have this fairly large cylindrical container with an excellent sealing top that I decided to case a 1 pint cake in. I birthed it early because of some shady looking growth.  It wasn't exactly healthy looking so I thought to case with a rye seed/verm mixture.  So here's the set up and I'm hoping someone can settle my nerves about it, or perhaps not.  This cylindrical container is about 10in. x 5in. (diameter) with a half inch of damp perlite on the bottom layer.  I took the cake and put it through a coffee grinder, mixing it (and slightly layering it) with 2 1/2 cups casing mixture, and finally adding a quarter inch of casing on top of the whole shibang. So please respond :frown:.
It's cubes by the way. 


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: JizzlesMcGee]
    #1311668 - 02/16/03 12:51 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

So you chopped a cake that wasn?t completely colonized in a coffee grinder and cased it? In the open?

IMO this calls for contamination to happen.


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: Anno]
    #1311679 - 02/16/03 12:57 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Let us know how it goes.


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: Anno]
    #1312628 - 02/16/03 08:12 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Anno, I'm well aware that uncolinized substrate is prime conditions for unwanted guests but we're getting quite anxious. My excuse is that it's all my friends fault. We're in it together but sometimes he shows signs of complete incompetence, even though he claims to be one of the greatest cultivators on earth. No lie. He even dropped the cake on the floor. It seems that this improvised casing of his defies casing logic but we'll see. I won't bother you with any more of my anger. It's not imperative that this casing succeed but it would be nice for a first time casing success. Please know that I respect everyone's advise. Thanks for the replies, I'll keep you posted.
also, IMO?? In My Opinion?

A few questions..
- how's rye seed as a casing substrate?
- does grinding the mycelium effect it's overall colinizing ability?
- what the best ratio of colinized substrate to casing mix?
- should the mycelium and casing be mixed together or layered?
- should casing be fanned?
- is perlite really neccesary?
SORRY


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: JizzlesMcGee]
    #1312665 - 02/16/03 08:38 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

"how's rye seed as a casing substrate?"

Rye is a substrate material, not a casing material.

"does grinding the mycelium effect it's overall colinizing ability?"

No, mycelium will recover from grinding, although it is not necessary to grind it to put in a casing. Most people slice their cakes then fill in the holes with *crumbled* mycelium.

" what the best ratio of colinized substrate to casing mix?"

The thickness of the casing layer should be around 1/4th of the substrate depth

- should the mycelium and casing be mixed together or layered?

The casing goes on top. Some people also like to put casing material (or sometimes just verm or perlite) on the bottom too. Are you sure you know what a casing is?

- should casing be fanned?

Yes.

You really need to do some reading. Based on your questions it's quite obvious you haven't researched this very well at all. Go to the casing section of the shroomery FAQ and read everything: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3288

Also I suggest you try this tek for your 1st casing attempt: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7971


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: JizzlesMcGee]
    #1312673 - 02/16/03 08:43 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Anno, I'm well aware that uncolinized substrate is prime conditions for unwanted guests but we're getting quite anxious. My excuse is that it's all my friends fault. We're in it together but sometimes he shows signs of complete incompetence, even though he claims to be one of the greatest cultivators on earth. No lie. He even dropped the cake on the floor. It seems that this improvised casing of his defies casing logic but we'll see. I won't bother you with any more of my anger. It's not imperative that this casing succeed but it would be nice for a first time casing success. Please know that I respect everyone's advise. Thanks for the replies, I'll keep you posted.
also, IMO?? In My Opinion?


Don't listen to your friend...listen to Anno!
Your friend sounds like he is an expert at getting contaminations.  :smirk:

Yes ...IMO is In my opinion!


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A few questions..
- how's rye seed as a casing substrate?
- does grinding the mycelium effect it's overall colinizing ability?
- what the best ratio of colinized substrate to casing mix?
- should the mycelium and casing be mixed together or layered?
- should casing be fanned?



Use Rye Grain, Birdseed or Popcorn for a substrate.
Rye seed is more expensive and I wouldn't use it unless I was growing sclerotia.

Grinding the substrate up will give you more inoculation points...I would only grind up BRF cakes...and have many times with great results.

What is the best ratio of colinized substrate to casing mix?
You don't mix them!
You are confused with bulk substrates...I think.

The substrate shouldn't be mixed with the casing material.
You would have a layer of substrate...then a casing layer on top of that.

Yes a casing should be fanned after the casings surface is colonized and ready to be fruited.

good luck!
 


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Re: Unique casing indeed [Re: Roadkill]
    #1332107 - 02/24/03 04:42 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

Thanks for all the information and counseling guys!
It's too bad but the casing didd't work as expected. I appreciate all your help, though. I'm assuming that there was way too much casing and there might have been a contam (the terrarium started to smell like rotting fruit) thanks again


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