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Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species?
    #13098381 - 08/25/10 01:07 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Habitat
huge cluster at the foot of a dead tree

Gills
pores/gills: gills
color: yellow
attachment: decurrent

Stem
length: 3”
diameter: 3/4”
color: yellow at the top, rusty brown below
texture: ragged and lumpy, has a large veil ring
hollow/solid: unsure, too many slugs

Cap
diameter: 1-2”
color: mostly yellow but covered in shades of rusty brown like the stem
texture: kind of ragged like the stem
shape: generally round but misshapen
convex/concave: convex

Spore print
waiting but it looks yellowish brown so far

Bruising
gills and stem turn rusty brown when cut/handled



I'm having trouble with the key because the spore color I'm seeing so far is more yellow-brown than anything but I only have a very light print right now. If I go with brown it comes up as Pholiota but it doesn't look like the Pholiota pictures. My other guess would be a different Gymnopilus species than the one I saw the other day.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: sve]
    #13098399 - 08/25/10 01:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

maybe Armillaria


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: TimmiT]
    #13098407 - 08/25/10 01:17 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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In the wake of the storm, Armillaria includes only white-spored, wood-rotting mushrooms with gills that are attached to the stem or run down it; most species are parasitic, and many form visible black rhizomorphs  in the wood.




The spores are definitely not white.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: sve]
    #13098430 - 08/25/10 01:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

sorry, didn't read the spore print colour. In that case you are probably right about Pholiota


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: TimmiT]
    #13100309 - 08/25/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The spore print color is hard to describe and my camera is terrible at accurately showing colors. It's not brown or yellow. It's kind of yellow-orange-brown. It isn't vibrantly orange like Gymnopilus. It's not brown like Pholiota are described as having.

They looked a lot like these but a much denser cluster. Probably not those, though, because of the print color.

Any ideas?


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: sve]
    #13104922 - 08/26/10 11:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I THOUGHT somebody got to that cluster before me! Its spectabilis. I can only say that for sure because I know the exact specimen she found. Sve, if you still have them look for green bruising. its evident on most of them.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: Dishez]
    #13104928 - 08/26/10 11:34 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Here is the rest of it.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: Dishez]
    #13104933 - 08/26/10 11:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Inactive Gymnopilus species


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: weiliigod]
    #13104985 - 08/26/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

not inactive.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: Dishez]
    #13105291 - 08/26/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Dishez said:
not inactive.




Did you test some?
how were they?


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: weiliigod]
    #13105295 - 08/26/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

oh sorry, i was referring to the op.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: weiliigod]
    #13105327 - 08/26/10 01:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I kindof cheated on the id i made. these are from the same exact patch as those that I found. I know the op IRL :p


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: Dishez]
    #13105393 - 08/26/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They look like Gymnopilus spectabilis. Mushrooms demystified uses the word "decurrent" as well. Clusters and growing on dead tree foot. I feel like an expert would have easily placed this so. I was just going through my books using the keys. Just trying to learn. Thanks for the pictures.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: AUtrippin]
    #13110264 - 08/27/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It's interesting that this species is described as having a bright orange print. The other Gymnopilis I found had a much more orange print and those are apparently liquiritiae, which is supposed to have a rusty brown print.

Is it common for the print color to change as the mushroom develops? I believe I read in Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushroom that pink oysters have a spore color that changes over time. I'm curious to know if that's typical for most mushrooms.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: sve]
    #13111078 - 08/27/10 05:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmmm. The prints that I got WERE bright orange. It might be your printing medium. I print on clear plastic cards so Im able to see exactly what the color looks like ( plus it comes out great for making microscope ready prints). Ill show you the tek someday.


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Re: Pholiota? Different Gymnopilus species? [Re: Dishez]
    #13111135 - 08/27/10 06:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Dishez said:
Ill show you the tek someday.




If you're ever around again. :p


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