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 OneMoreRobot3021
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 The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. 
#13099187 - 08/25/10 09:28 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I left work early, around 6 PM, and headed to the subway. I entered at the very same entrance I always use. There were about 15 other people walking down the long staircase at the same time as me. I had my headphones in. From the top of the stairs I saw three policemen around a table. I had heard about these random bag checks for about 9 years, since 9/11, but had never actually seen one.
One of the policemen looked up and right at me. I was wearing cartoonishly colorful clothes, with a slightly scruffy beard, and a white hoodie, bopping my head to the musical stylings of The National and looking like anything but a suspected terrorist. That policeman then spoke into the ear of the one next to him, who moved to the bottom of the stairs. I knew it was going to happen, and when I got to the bottom of the stairs and made for the subway turnstile, that policeman put his finger up in front of my face, looked me in the eye, and beckoned me over to the table.
I took one headphone out of my ear, cocked an eyebrow and looked at him. He asked me to give him my bag and to open the pockets for him. I did so, wearing a look of half-amusement and half-annoyance. He opened my bag and gave it a pretty cursory run through, not even really moving things aside as he looked through it, more looking into it than through it.
Then they gave me my bag back and sent me on my way.
Apparently, from some reading I am doing and what I am hearing from friends, I had the right to refuse a search of my bag, and then to leave the subway. Had I known, I would have done so.
This bothered and offended me. All in the name of safety, I know.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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 eritas
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13099197 - 08/25/10 09:31 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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theyve only tried to do it to me once
i had nothing in my bag but i still refused then i simply went into the station through another entrance
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and how beautiful it is
because freedom doesnt have a purpose
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: eritas]
#13099201 - 08/25/10 09:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm disappointed in myself for not knowing my rights insofar as refusal of search goes. Now I know, though.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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eritas
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13099210 - 08/25/10 09:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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yep know your rights and never give the nypd anything is my motto
also deny deny deny
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heres to our lives being meaningless
and how beautiful it is
because freedom doesnt have a purpose
check out my art
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13099212 - 08/25/10 09:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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you had the right to refuse search and board the public transportation
system, your tax money goes to pay for it, it's your right to use it
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#13099219 - 08/25/10 09:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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your tax money goes to pay for it, it's your right to use it
Ha! If that were true Id be cruising around the ocean in a trident submarine right now.
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13099223 - 08/25/10 09:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
you had the right to refuse search and board the public transportation
system, your tax money goes to pay for it, it's your right to use it
I could have left the subway and tried to enter through another entrance, but not the one where they were set up.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: ModusPwnd]
#13099224 - 08/25/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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submarines are not public transportation and you can use them, join the navy
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Prisoner#1
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13099230 - 08/25/10 09:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
you had the right to refuse search and board the public transportation
system, your tax money goes to pay for it, it's your right to use it
I could have left the subway and tried to enter through another entrance, but not the one where they were set up.
that being the easiest unless of course they have one set up at each entrance of the station
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ModusPwnd
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13099232 - 08/25/10 09:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Im just saying, for the vast majority of things that tax money funds you certainly do not have the right to use them.
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Glenners
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: ModusPwnd]
#13099289 - 08/25/10 10:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's pretty stupid if they're only doing it at single entrances.
Say a terrorist with a bomb is actually heading in that direction. All they have to do is turn around and go to another entrance if they see the police or refuse the search and leave.
This is the same stupid logic as border crossings. When going across a bridge into another country they check you AFTER you've gone over the bridge. There's nothing to stop someone from loading a transport truck with explosives and blowing up the bridge.
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eritas
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: Glenners]
#13099295 - 08/25/10 10:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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its not really that they think this will help prevent or fight terrorism
its a scare tactic
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and how beautiful it is
because freedom doesnt have a purpose
check out my art
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=14505741&page=0&vc=1#14505741
and my goggles and jewelry
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: ModusPwnd]
#13099308 - 08/25/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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ModusPwnd said:
Im just saying, for the vast majority of things that tax money funds you certainly do not have the right to use them.
how much of it is listed as public use like public transportation
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lil_demented
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: eritas]
#13099326 - 08/25/10 10:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You got profiled my friend, they were looking for a drug
bust, not a bomb bust. So sad they take advantage of this
terrorist situation. 
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: lil_demented]
#13099459 - 08/25/10 10:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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lil_demented said:
You got profiled my friend, they were looking for a drug
bust, not a bomb bust. So sad they take advantage of this
terrorist situation.
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blujay
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13099565 - 08/25/10 11:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I left work early, around 6 PM, and headed to the subway. I entered at the very same entrance I always use. There were about 15 other people walking down the long staircase at the same time as me. I had my headphones in. From the top of the stairs I saw three policemen around a table. I had heard about these random bag checks for about 9 years, since 9/11, but had never actually seen one.
One of the policemen looked up and right at me. I was wearing cartoonishly colorful clothes, with a slightly scruffy beard, and a white hoodie, bopping my head to the musical stylings of The National and looking like anything but a suspected terrorist. That policeman then spoke into the ear of the one next to him, who moved to the bottom of the stairs. I knew it was going to happen, and when I got to the bottom of the stairs and made for the subway turnstile, that policeman put his finger up in front of my face, looked me in the eye, and beckoned me over to the table.
I took one headphone out of my ear, cocked an eyebrow and looked at him. He asked me to give him my bag and to open the pockets for him. I did so, wearing a look of half-amusement and half-annoyance. He opened my bag and gave it a pretty cursory run through, not even really moving things aside as he looked through it, more looking into it than through it.
Then they gave me my bag back and sent me on my way.
Apparently, from some reading I am doing and what I am hearing from friends, I had the right to refuse a search of my bag, and then to leave the subway. Had I known, I would have done so.
This bothered and offended me. All in the name of safety, I know.
Duh, you didn't even try? I would have been like, fuck no there's dildos in there! I'm leaving!
If they tried to detain me I dunno wtf I would have done.
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lil_demented
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: blujay]
#13099583 - 08/25/10 11:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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blujay said:
If they tried to detain me I dunno wtf I would have done.
Resisting, assault, dead children, slaughtered puppies.
All of the above would have been a fine alternative.
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blujay
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: lil_demented]
#13099593 - 08/25/10 11:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I probably wouldn't make it worse and resist or anything, but I might "accidentally" pee/poo myself in the squad car... it's a condition I've had for a while officer, I'm easily startled when nervous and it just comes out!
This man suffers from a bad sphincter!
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Scott Bennett
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: lil_demented]
#13099601 - 08/25/10 11:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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lil_demented said:
You got profiled my friend, they were looking for a drug
bust, not a bomb bust. So sad they take advantage of this
terrorist situation.
Maybe he should get a hair cut.
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It's just some nights, you really want to go out, get some hot bitch to dump Goose down your throat and snort coke off a stripper's tits.
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lil_demented
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Re: The NYPD searched my backpack on my way into the subway yesterday. [Re: blujay]
#13099613 - 08/25/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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blujay said:
I probably wouldn't make it worse and resist or anything, but I might "accidentally" pee/poo myself in the squad car... it's a condition I've had for a while officer, I'm easily startled when nervous and it just comes out!
This man suffers from a bad sphincter!
That's also a good tactic if someone tries to ass rape you... 
I don't think they'll enjoy it anymore.
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