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Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing...
    #13095221 - 08/24/10 12:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

So, my cousins ex girlfriend just went nuts. She narced on her grandmother/uncle that she lived with for heroin and marijuana. The police raided the whole fucking house, tore it all up, and didn't find shit. 1 baggy of weed dust. A total waste of their time.

Now, shes pissed at my cousin, which might make a desperate woman pissed at me. He used to buy a few grams of weed from me every few weeks, and she knows I have a pretty nice headstash. She knows I have a lot of bongs and pipes. She knows I do *gasp* nitrous (shes a prude). She drinks with me sometimes.

She doesn't know that I have 2 plants growing upstairs right now. She doesn't know I have quite a bit of DMT and 2ci. She doesn't know I have ~20 OC's...I don't see any reason why she should be mad at me and blow me in...but there IS a possibility of it happening I guess. Her sisters are equally as pissed at my family and have seen me smoking, although I've never said more than 5 words to them.

Do the police listen to random reports from third hand parties? Did they only raid her grandmothers house because that was who she lived with? She barely even knows me...and shes already wasted the polices time with one raid...and I suppose she'd tell them about my cousin first too. I know for a fact he just smokes, doesn't grow or get into anything harder.

Do I have anything to be worried about?

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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13095236 - 08/24/10 12:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Depends on where you live...but you can never be too careful


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: the_drummer]
    #13095256 - 08/24/10 12:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck. I have 2 beautiful girls in full blooming flower...am I really gonna have to toss them? She has no idea I have plants growing in here...do they raid for something as stupid as "I saw him smokin' weed one time"?

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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13095291 - 08/24/10 12:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Eh, probably not...the real question is whether or not you're willing to gamble on a "probably not." In my experience, you can never be too careful. How much longer do you anticipate the ladies taking? If I were you, I would look into transporting them somewhere until shit blows over.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13099162 - 08/25/10 09:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Don't talk to that snitch bitch anymore if you value your freedom.

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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: rezen]
    #13099181 - 08/25/10 09:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

be nice but keep your distance


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: nachohippie]
    #13099243 - 08/25/10 09:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lol... anyways, they cant search ur house unless they catch you w/ something. that would give them a reason to search your house.. right now it would be your word against hers so..

watch out for "friends" of hers wanting to buy shit from you they could be narcs themselves


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: AnimaSoulBlue]
    #13100556 - 08/25/10 02:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I never sell anything, save to my cousin because I feel bad that he smokes terrrrrrrrrrrrible buds...I give him some good shit once in a while. OC's and DMT is gone. 2ci still around since its not really "illegal" anyway...the girls I'm gonna finish up, but I guess I'll wait to start any new ladies for a while.

That cunt...I plan it so I harvest once a month so it'll hold me over until the next one. Now I'm gonna have to buy weed. "yo I got sum dro". Fuck I hate that.

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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13103666 - 08/26/10 12:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

smart to wait..narcs no beuno......raids are fucking lame :laugh: so many guns that morning.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: AnimaSoulBlue]
    #13104016 - 08/26/10 05:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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lol... anyways, they cant search ur house unless they catch you w/ something. that would give them a reason to search your house.. right now it would be your word against hers so..




This is not true in the US.  Don't screw around with people's freedom pretending that you are a lawyer after watching some lawyer show on TV.

In the US, they can search "ur" house with a search warrant.  It is up to a judge to decide if the police have enough evidence to justify a search warranty.  Each jurisdiction, and to some extent each judge, are different in what they require.  Most places/judges require more than one piece of collaborating evidence.  However, this is usually not difficult for the police to produce.  A confidential informant coupled with "we observed many people coming and going from the residence at all times of the day and night; an activity that is commonly associated with selling drugs" coupled with "a drug sniffing dog alerted on a vehicle parked in the suspects driveway" can be enough to get a search warranty.

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I never sell anything, save to my cousin because I feel bad that he smokes terrrrrrrrrrrrible buds...I give him some good shit once in a while.




That is the problem... there is no difference between sell and give.  In the eyes of the law, they are identical.  From a risk standpoint, they are identical.  With the risk of prison hanging over year head, you still told at least one person (your cousin) that you grow.  With no risk of prison over his head, how many people do you think your cousin has told?  (At least one, his ex-GF).  All it takes is for one of them to get popped, and to give up your cousins cousin (you) to get a reduced sentence.  If you are going to grow for personal use, then you cannot afford to be charitable.  Let your cousin smoke nasty shit or grow his own.  Even if you are only giving it away, you are still a drug dealer.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Seuss]
    #13104054 - 08/26/10 05:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's even worse in some states.

The mere act of passing a joint constitutes sale/transfer of drugs.

It may not even be your joint to begin with.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Seuss]
    #13104384 - 08/26/10 08:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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lol... anyways, they cant search ur house unless they catch you w/ something. that would give them a reason to search your house.. right now it would be your word against hers so..




This is not true in the US.  Don't screw around with people's freedom pretending that you are a lawyer after watching some lawyer show on TV.

In the US, they can search "ur" house with a search warrant.  It is up to a judge to decide if the police have enough evidence to justify a search warranty.  Each jurisdiction, and to some extent each judge, are different in what they require.  Most places/judges require more than one piece of collaborating evidence.  However, this is usually not difficult for the police to produce.  A confidential informant coupled with "we observed many people coming and going from the residence at all times of the day and night; an activity that is commonly associated with selling drugs" coupled with "a drug sniffing dog alerted on a vehicle parked in the suspects driveway" can be enough to get a search warranty.


what your explaining sounds the same like what i said.. just more elaborate. thats what i meant by "catch you with something" but its you that sounds like a fucking lawyer. i was only trying to help someone in need of some advise. ppl like you always need to freakin point ppl out b/c you think you gotta show everyone how smart you fuckin are. its disgusting..


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #13105247 - 08/26/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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It's even worse in some states.

The mere act of passing a joint constitutes sale/transfer of drugs.

It may not even be your joint to begin with.




I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps but certainly not dangerous.

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what your explaining sounds the same like what i said.. just more elaborate. thats what i meant by "catch you with something" but its you that sounds like a fucking lawyer. i was only trying to help someone in need of some advise. ppl like you always need to freakin point ppl out b/c you think you gotta show everyone how smart you fuckin are. its disgusting.




:huxleyfacepalm:

It's not the same and that's why it needed to be said. People providing misinformed advice on this forum could realistically end in one of our fellow posters ending up in prison for a long time. So we try to keep a good eye on that. You can't excuse being ignorant and not expressing yourself properly by saying "well that's what i meant to say".


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: NizzyJones]
    #13105388 - 08/26/10 01:36 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
It's even worse in some states.

The mere act of passing a joint constitutes sale/transfer of drugs.

It may not even be your joint to begin with.




I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps but certainly not dangerous.




Good for you although I have no idea why you felt the need to tell me that. I didn't make the law. As a matter of fact I only found out about it when I had to do grand jury duty.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Seuss]
    #13105548 - 08/26/10 02:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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That is the problem... there is no difference between sell and give.  In the eyes of the law, they are identical.  From a risk standpoint, they are identical.




If this is true, why do some states have different laws for a "gift" and a sale, at least to some degree? For example here's a copy&paste from NORML on Cali's laws-

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Sale                                  Incarceration Fine
Gift of less than 28.5 g misdemeanor   none     $100
Any amount                 felony         2 - 4 years            none




This is a question, not a "HAHA YOU'RE WRONG" post. I assume you meant federally or amounts over an ounce or something else I'm missing?


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: John]
    #13105657 - 08/26/10 02:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If I made it sound like my cousin knew I was growing, I didn't mean for it to. He just knows I have "good shit"...as far as he knows, I get it from a friend of a friend :shrug:

His girlfriend never knew I have a grow going...but, if she wanted to be a cunt, I suppose she could SAY anything she wanted to about me. And, she knows that I smoke quite a bit, quite often...so, if she wanted to make an accusation I figured she could say that.

I do have lots of cars in and out of my driveway, but I share my driveway with 2 other houses. I am also VERY good friends with all of my neighbors (old people I help from time to time, talk to on the daily). Theres no way they could have had police dogs here without my knowledge...my dog would alert me for sure, and no cars that come here are within 100 feet of the road really.

I think I'm OK. I don't sell anything, I don't have anything more than a blunt out in public, and I certainly don't give out my phone number or address to people I just met.

Fuck I can't wait to get out of this state...hopefully they'll do SOMETHING with medicinal cannabis soon...something reasonable. I actually have a 100% legit reason to smoke (won't get into it here, but the alternative is a spinal tap every 6 months...fuck that. A bowl a day keeps the doctor away)

And yeah, NY has something for sale and for gift:

2 oz or less gift class B misdemeanor 3 months and/or fine $500
24 g sale class A misdemeanor 1 year and/or fine $1,000

Maybe next time I'll wrap it up in some paper and put a bow on it :lol:

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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13106382 - 08/26/10 05:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus fucking christ... another one ^^^


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: John]
    #13108628 - 08/27/10 05:12 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

> If this is true, why do some states

I tend to speak from a federal level rather than state level.  Each state is different, but federal trumps them all.  The "system" will usually go with whatever is worse, state or federal.  In your example of a gift, they would prosecute at the federal level, if possible, as the charges would be more severe.


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Re: Bat-shit crazy ex girlfriend narcing... [Re: AnimaSoulBlue]
    #13117899 - 08/29/10 08:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Jesus fucking christ... another one ^^^




Another one what?

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