Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineHags
The Scientist

Registered: 08/22/10
Posts: 48
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Dextrose Cake Injection
    #13086743 - 08/22/10 02:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hey all,

so ive got a grow journal on another site, and brought up an experimental technique i will be using with positive feedback so far... im prob 2 days away from birthing 8 x .5 pint PF cakes.

The experiment is I will be injecting a 1:10 dextrose:h2o sterilized mixture into the cakes after the third flush. theoretically i think this will feed the cakes for continual flushes...

Any thoughts?


be easy on me its my first shroomery post, and the dextrose was only 4$ on ebay so its not a real loss if this doesnt work as planned.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRevilor
Rhizomorph Riker


Registered: 07/15/10
Posts: 72
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Hags]
    #13088356 - 08/22/10 09:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm interested keep me posted on what happens.


--------------------
Uncontrollable Nature
Mushrooms are mostly aqua and the wind whispers mushrooms.

"TRUST THE FUNGUS"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRogerRabbitM
Bans for Pleasure
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 42,214
Loc: Seattle
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Revilor]
    #13088556 - 08/22/10 10:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I've never seen it work.  In fact, I've had an offer for the last decade for a free microscope for the first person who can grow a 10 gram or larger hydroponic mushroom using an inert base and chemical nutrients.  I'm pretty sure I put that offer in place back when I was a mod over at mycotopia.  Mushrooms eat their food and require solid food to fruit.  Mycelium will grow on sugar water, but not fruit well, if at all.
RR


--------------------
Download Let's Grow Mushrooms



semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat

"I've never had a failed experiment.  I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work."
Thomas Edison

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHags
The Scientist


Registered: 08/22/10
Posts: 48
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13088981 - 08/23/10 01:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hmmm, very interesting. well ill def post my results when i come to that point. ill check out my college myco book, maybe they mention something other than the dextrose specifically for the fruiting, maybe even a hormone...?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHags
The Scientist


Registered: 08/22/10
Posts: 48
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Hags]
    #13090890 - 08/23/10 02:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

maybe RR or someone can help me with this

I plan on splitting the cakes in 3 parts for this:

3 for control
3 for 1:10 dextrose:h2o injection
2 for 1:10 dextrose:h2o injection + blood meal

Now I know that blood meal is somewhat frowned upon by RR. RR, could you explain more why blood meal isn't choice for you?

Because from what I know about mycology it needs its carbs (dextrose) and its N (which easily could be from blood meal)

The only thing I see wrong with adding the blood meal to my injections would be adding too much and basically nute burning the organism...



thoughts?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRevilor
Rhizomorph Riker


Registered: 07/15/10
Posts: 72
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Hags]
    #13091539 - 08/23/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How bout using used coffee grounds instead of bloodmeal?


--------------------
Uncontrollable Nature
Mushrooms are mostly aqua and the wind whispers mushrooms.

"TRUST THE FUNGUS"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHags
The Scientist


Registered: 08/22/10
Posts: 48
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Revilor]
    #13091770 - 08/23/10 05:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hmm i like that. i could use used grounds and they will be pasteurized already too!

:coffee::syringe:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRogerRabbitM
Bans for Pleasure
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 42,214
Loc: Seattle
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Hags]
    #13093379 - 08/23/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Remember, mushrooms eat their food.  They're also not meat eaters, thus blood meal is of little use, even though it contains N.  They do eat manure, so you could add a touch of chicken manure.  Basically, you need to remember that mycelium is not a plant and doesn't benefit from the same things plants do.
RR


--------------------
Download Let's Grow Mushrooms



semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat

"I've never had a failed experiment.  I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work."
Thomas Edison

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHags
The Scientist


Registered: 08/22/10
Posts: 48
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13093481 - 08/23/10 11:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Touché.

its strange, i know. but i saw it on one of the posts on here, what about dog food. Im not too happy about the smell of boiling down eukanuba over my stove with some water but i looked at nutrition facts... looks myco friendly.. id think.

heres the eukanuba link with the ingredients of the dog food my lab gets:
http://www.petco.com/product/102319/Eukanuba-Labrador-Retriever-Adult-Dog-Food.aspx

scroll down and hit ingredients g & a

btw: proud as hell to have you corresponding on this post RR.

Edited by Hags (08/23/10 11:53 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRevilor
Rhizomorph Riker


Registered: 07/15/10
Posts: 72
Loc: Flag
Last seen: 11 years, 7 months
Re: Dextrose Cake Injection [Re: Hags]
    #13093586 - 08/23/10 11:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Is it possible to get or make liquid chicken manure?  Would the N possibly leach out into a barrel of water the manure is soaking in?  Have the manure in a bag that water can penetrate.  Think of a tea bag steeping.  After a couple weeks or so it should be go to go theoretically speaking.  My Source take a gander and let me know.


--------------------
Uncontrollable Nature
Mushrooms are mostly aqua and the wind whispers mushrooms.

"TRUST THE FUNGUS"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: Rice cake injection mycofile 1,785 1 11/30/99 10:06 PM
by NearEnd
* Re: Inject substrate Shroomzilla 1,246 5 05/02/01 12:23 AM
by paddoholland
* Injecting water into birthed cakes? downforpot 942 1 03/26/02 06:22 AM
by patzee
* Forever Cake, Automated Production, Dexter, and... srivatsa 2,451 8 12/15/01 05:00 AM
by Man
* Large casings without cakes or grain spawn...
( 1 2 all )
trendalM 3,552 21 04/24/03 02:13 PM
by trendal
* Quinoa cakes? Mr Wobblehead 1,506 12 12/12/02 09:53 AM
by Mr Wobblehead
* Debating wick idea for cakes INDIO 1,421 10 07/24/03 10:02 AM
by INDIO
* Ensure? source of nutrients, rice cakes as medium? freshjive 1,149 6 09/03/02 10:50 PM
by DERRAYLD

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
899 topic views. 1 members, 4 guests and 10 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.021 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 12 queries.