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Invisiblepoke smot!
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Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s
    #1308735 - 02/14/03 05:44 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Hi all,

AFOAF has PF's growing. But here's the thing: there's a little confusion about when to harvest. See, the "veil" type deal that covers the gills until maturity just isn't there. What he gets is the normal ball type cap with the edges connected to the stem. In all cases, the cap then separates from the stem and the gills can then be seen.

My question is, how come there isn't that flap (I'm assuming that's the veil) covering the underside of the gills? And often times, his shrooms will show their gills very early on, when they are about an inch tall. This would seem far too early to pick the shrooms, but the cap is separating from the stem, with the gills visible.

I wish the guy had a good digital camera, but I cannot provide pictoral descriptions of the problem at this time. Any suggestions?


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: poke smot!]
    #1308739 - 02/14/03 05:49 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

It most likely does get gills but they mature so fast that you didn't even see em.


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: poke smot!]
    #1308742 - 02/14/03 05:52 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Just harvest when they are fully grown. There is no loss in potency IMO.


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: poke smot!]
    #1308751 - 02/14/03 05:58 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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My question is, how come there isn't that flap (I'm assuming that's the veil) covering the underside of the gills?




A dawg told me that it doesn't need a "flap" because nature tells the Mushroom it is ready to drop spores and continue the lineage. If a flap existed on the underside it greatly reduce spore distibution.



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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s *DELETED* [Re: SixCee]
    #1308755 - 02/14/03 06:01 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: poke smot!]
    #1308760 - 02/14/03 06:05 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Ahhh now I understand. Must have read the question wrong. Thanks poke smot!


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: poke smot!]
    #1308761 - 02/14/03 06:05 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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On one hand, my FOAF would harvest the shroom early since the "veil" already "broke". But on the other hand, they are not that big. He just doesn't want them to lose potency during sporulation.




I do not believe (nor have I seen any evidence to support) the theory that shrooms lose potency during sporulation. IMHO of course.


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: z@z.com]
    #1308772 - 02/14/03 06:14 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

the whole "pick them just afetr the veil breaks" thing is a bit spurious in my mind....
Yes, shrooms picked during, or just after initial sporulation DO have superior potency to overblown, wavy-capped, 2 week old shrooms, but a give or take a day or 3 it doesn't make much (or any) of a difference...IME


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #1308835 - 02/14/03 07:13 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

that picture of 'PF Classic' has a weird cap color...all of the pictures i've ever seen have dark red caps... here is my friends pic of his fatass - the veil just started to break in this picture so he harvested a few hours after



and this picture is with a flashlight to show the veil breakage.


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: Rastafari]
    #1308843 - 02/14/03 07:19 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

somone told me that the caps tend to vary in colors in later flushes  :shocked:


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Re: Harvesting, veil, etc etc. ?s [Re: Hexum311]
    #1309186 - 02/15/03 03:09 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

does he handle the shrooms alot? i've seen stuff like that from excessive handling


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