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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13147587 - 09/04/10 05:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #13147599 - 09/04/10 05:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13147760 - 09/04/10 06:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Any threads that show side by side testing?

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13147804 - 09/04/10 06:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

testing of what.

light vs no light?

you could always use the search engine. or go ahead and get an isolate. and fruit it out.


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13147828 - 09/04/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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If someone can link me to a side by side light testing experiment, I'd love to see the "facts". :shrug:

Until then I'm gonna have to call BS.




No probelemo.

Call BS, use no light, and get shitty flushes.  It makes no difference to the rest of us. 

The importance of light in mushroom cultivation has been known for decades. I know of no commercial mushroom farms other than those growing 'white button' mushrooms that don't use bright, high frequency lighting, with one notable exception being King oyster farms, where dim lighting produces smaller caps and large, fat stems, which are desired with that species.

Most agaricus species require little to no light to grow to full size.  Others, such as all the edibles and medicinals as well as the psilocybe mushrooms that people around here grow, require light to produce the best quality and most product.

A simple surf around this board if you've been gone for a few years is to look at average flushes people are getting today compared to several years ago.  The difference is air exchange and lighting.

Don't confuse mushrooms and plants.  Each uses light in a different way.
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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13148022 - 09/04/10 07:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Noob here but I like this thought.  When I grow begonias or tomatoes or many other plants, if you want stronger fruits or blooms, you eliminate stems as the food/water supply is fixed (in reality) and the fewer stems the stronger the production.
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Light is not needed for large caps, light is just a trigger for the fruiting stage.

The fact is, the less pins you get, the more food is available for that pin to eat, because its food source is not being divided up amongst many pins.



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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: quebus]
    #13148057 - 09/04/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

with the substrates used
they have more than enough "food"

the more pins the better in my opinion


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: quebus]
    #13148064 - 09/04/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

certainly noone would argue that fewer pins=bigger mush but less total weight :awesomenod:

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: SomeGuy]
    #13148079 - 09/04/10 07:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

im not sure


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13149550 - 09/05/10 07:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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If someone can link me to a side by side light testing experiment, I'd love to see the "facts". :shrug:

Until then I'm gonna have to call BS.




No probelemo.

Call BS, use no light, and get shitty flushes.  It makes no difference to the rest of us. 

The importance of light in mushroom cultivation has been known for decades. I know of no commercial mushroom farms other than those growing 'white button' mushrooms that don't use bright, high frequency lighting, with one notable exception being King oyster farms, where dim lighting produces smaller caps and large, fat stems, which are desired with that species.

Most agaricus species require little to no light to grow to full size.  Others, such as all the edibles and medicinals as well as the psilocybe mushrooms that people around here grow, require light to produce the best quality and most product.

A simple surf around this board if you've been gone for a few years is to look at average flushes people are getting today compared to several years ago.  The difference is air exchange and lighting.

Don't confuse mushrooms and plants.  Each uses light in a different way.
RR





If this is fact, then there is something more out there than conjecture.
Where are the studies that disprove the earlier studies?
I'd love to hook some lights up and increase my total yield, but I want to make sure it's worth the investment.

I can't find a simple side by side test anywhere..

How is light converted by fungi and how does it increase your yield beyond the normal foods reserves of a sub?

Where is the proof the the circadian rhythm plays such an important role in fungi.

Perhaps there are cubensis strains(or strains could be created) that do just as well without any added light.. this would seem a better investment for the grower.

It would be best to check each species(strain) independently when it comes to lighting, as the requirements may vary greatly.

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13149556 - 09/05/10 07:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well good thing strains of cubensis are individual and cannot be traded (safely anyways)

you really are going to isolate a strain and fruit it to test if it works with light to save yourself from buying a light?


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13149572 - 09/05/10 07:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean strains can't be traded?

Why wouldn't I want to test the theory that more light is better?

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13149582 - 09/05/10 07:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you gonna send psilocybin containing material through the us mail?

goodluck pal:thumbup:


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13149587 - 09/05/10 07:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No, why would you think that? And why is it a good thing?

Strains from prints.
The idea of a strain is something that will breed true to its definition.

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13149589 - 09/05/10 07:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Strains from prints.
The idea of a strain is something that will breed true to its definition.





:huxleyfacepalm:

do you know what a strain is?


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13149592 - 09/05/10 07:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Can I talk to your leader please?

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13149597 - 09/05/10 07:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

what?

dude you're failing at mycology right here.


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13149600 - 09/05/10 07:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

wrong answer.

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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13149604 - 09/05/10 07:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

>implying there was a right answer. oooooooooooohk


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Re: JARS ALREADY PINNING!!! PICS INCLUDED! [Re: k00laid]
    #13149617 - 09/05/10 07:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Your not helping me whatsoever and my names not dude.

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