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M11
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: Issius]
#13064568 - 08/17/10 02:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So they are just jars of WBS? How colonized are they?
I would give it a try. Dig a whole. Drop about 1" of vermiculite in, then dump the WBS on the verm, and then completely cover with about 3/4" of compost/manure/coir or whatever.
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Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
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Issius
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13064613 - 08/17/10 02:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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M11 said: So they are just jars of WBS? How colonized are they?
I would give it a try. Dig a whole. Drop about 1" of vermiculite in, then dump the WBS on the verm, and then completely cover with about 3/4" of compost/manure/coir or whatever.
Yep, most of my jars are fine, some are contamed. I've fixed my procedure, but I still have the jars. A few are compeltely done with trich taking over half and the myc taking half. Some are mostly myc with some patches of trich and some just have the beginnings of trich, which will take most of the uncolonized area before the myc can.
I will give it shot using this method though. I'll prepare coir with gypsum soon for bulk spawn and use the leftovers to case some WBS outside nestled next to a tree somewhere.
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M11
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: Issius]
#13064682 - 08/17/10 02:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am very pleased with my outdoor trays. I think I may just make around 15 or so that size (12" x 5" x 3") and just put them out in the woods. If I could yield about 20 grams dry a flush from each of those, that would be about 300 dry grams, or about 10 ounces, which would be ridiculous considering how little work it takes. Just water once a day in the morning.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
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Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
-RR
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Alikeo
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13068210 - 08/18/10 09:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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beautiful
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: Alikeo]
#13068222 - 08/18/10 10:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very beautiful! Outdoor's where it's at. This should really become a trend for all growers. Grow during the summer, trip all winter long and prep for the next growing season. Follow the natural cycle.
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lil_demented
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: libertaire]
#13068341 - 08/18/10 10:42 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just made one with a moldy, half colonized jar of corn and some coir/verm I had left over.
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: lil_demented]
#13068408 - 08/18/10 10:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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That right there is another beautiful aspect of it. You don't have to worry about mold, pasteurization, or any sort of sterility. Delving into this realm has got me wondering how one could go about colonizing grains outside without actually sterilizing them. It's gotta be possible...then again, maybe not.
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Austrip
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: libertaire]
#13068793 - 08/18/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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these kinda threads are EPIC, gotta love when people let mother nature do her thing.
good work!
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: Austrip]
#13085204 - 08/22/10 02:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i live in the desert, I wonder if it will work. Still going to try though
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: dr. girlfriend]
#13085535 - 08/22/10 07:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good times with outdoor pans. I have an interesting outdoor experiment going, after a disasterous trich outbreak on a friends indoor, two large beds (the circumference of an 11.7 gallon ice cream container) colonized with argentine cubensis, approx 5 jars per bed, one very meager, small bed made with one jar of burmese (it IS slowly colonizing, but slowly.) Another smaller bed made with a Jar of burmese, and the spawn from a contaminated burmese coir/bird seed pan, which is showing the most growth, theyre obviously growing toward eachother and speeding up the process, they were planted at different times. Finally I have the pan itself, which i had initially sort of gutted to an extent then discarded with a trashcan over the top, checked on it a while ago and it had rebounded so I'm seeing what happens with it. Had a few problems with slugs, but I have a nice system now for dealing with them. They don't seem to do anything to colonizing mushrooms but i think they lay their eggs near food sources which will sprout later, evil bastards.
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M11
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Flush 2
Look at these monsters! Most are 6-8" tall.
With flash.


Without flash.


Such beautiful organisms.
That last picture is my personal favorite. I think my camera skills are getting better.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR
Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
-RR
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M11
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13086507 - 08/22/10 01:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does anyone know what that cracking is on the large fruit in the middle? Just what happens when large caps like that open?
Why is it that the second flush has much larger mushrooms than the first? These are so much taller and meatier than the first flush. Will the third flush have even larger but fewer mushrooms?
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR
Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
-RR
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13086520 - 08/22/10 01:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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M11 said: Does anyone know what that cracking is on the large fruit in the middle? Just what happens when large caps like that open?
Why is it that the second flush has much larger mushrooms than the first? These are so much taller and meatier than the first flush. Will the third flush have even larger but fewer mushrooms?
from my gardening experience it is because the moisture is inconsistent.
if you are growing tomatoes. and you let them get too dry and then water them and let them get too dry again the skin begins to crack.
im going to assume this is the same for mushrooms.
inb4 fungus =/= vegetable
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: k00laid]
#13088888 - 08/23/10 12:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great looking clusters on that 2nd flush!
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M11
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: Austrip]
#13089930 - 08/23/10 10:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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10.3 grams dry from the second flush.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR
Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
-RR
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M11
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13093180 - 08/23/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think I should try a 50/50 peat moss and verm mixture with 1 teaspoon of hydrated lime per cup of peat as a casing for the 3rd flush instead of grass?
Would that provide better pinning you think? Now would be the time to do it since I just harvested.
-------------------- Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter. Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR
Those mushrooms are fine. Your friend is a pussy.
-RR
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13093254 - 08/23/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think somtimes the cracking is caused by rapid growth also
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: chad_shrooms]
#13093348 - 08/23/10 10:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very interesting grow! Makes me want to try it if I get any bad cakes on my first try.
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lil_demented
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: crazy325]
#13093882 - 08/24/10 01:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Beautiful, they grew so perfect too, have you had a lot of rain lately? Or hand watering them?
BTW, I hate you M11, I need some of those by the tree in my yard. Green with envy, enjoy those!
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Re: Forget growing indoors... OUTDOOR BEDS! [Re: M11]
#13094101 - 08/24/10 04:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could be snails and or slugs, seems they like the way caps taste.
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M11 said: Does anyone know what that cracking is on the large fruit in the middle? Just what happens when large caps like that open?
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