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cheese???!?
    #13041997 - 08/12/10 02:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

so, i just wanted to say this is my first post, i have been reading alot of this site every day lol, and have been trying a few of the teks, and am still learning quite a bit daily, so bare with me. i have been pressure cooking jars every night and sometimes i make more than i can cook, so i put them in the cupboard for the next day and cook them then. well i waited 2 days for 5 jars, becasue i was pre-occupied. so i pc them for 60 mins and about 20 mins in all i can smell in my house is cheese. i mean stanky rotten cheese. i smell the steam coming out of my pc and its the source, so obviously it must be these 2 day old jars. i was wondering if these are safe to inject with lc or if it would be a waste? has this happened to anyone else?

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Re: cheese???!? [Re: kronix024]
    #13042014 - 08/12/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

How many jars? How much work? My gut says start over.


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Re: cheese???!? [Re: kronix024]
    #13042019 - 08/12/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't use em


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Re: cheese???!? [Re: kronix024]
    #13042112 - 08/12/10 03:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

kronix024 said:
so bare with me.



*begins to strip down..*

:nothingtoadd:


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Re: cheese???!? [Re: Boozie]
    #13042607 - 08/12/10 05:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

assuming your procedure for pressure cooking was correct, they are probably OK. sterile is sterile. even if there was some nasty cheese smelling junk in there up til the point you cooked them. smell alone is not a contam - it indicates a contam (usually bacterial) if it happens after your sterilization; however if it was there before and you've sterilized them, you've killed the source of the smell - think of it as an unpleasant leftover.

sometimes grains take on a funk if left to soak too long, but again sterile is sterile. once you PC them, there is nothing alive inside, even if smell remains. there is no problem PCing and using said grain.

the only downside, is if you should become contaminated later, you'll no longer be able to tell from the smell, because the smell was already there.

make sense?

if there's a next time, store them in the fridge until you can PC them. think of it as a perishable food item.

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Re: cheese???!? [Re: creamcorn]
    #13042674 - 08/12/10 05:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If bacteria already had two days to work on the grain wouldn't that disqualify it for use? I only ask because I've read that the mushies are primary decomposers. And if bacteria was doing it's thing wouldn't that be breaking down the nutrients in the grain?


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Re: cheese???!? [Re: creamcorn]
    #13042714 - 08/12/10 05:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely the right answer is to toss em, start over.
But I know I'd still use em.
I agree with creamcorn.

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Re: cheese???!? [Re: Mushroomninja]
    #13042738 - 08/12/10 05:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yes, this is true, theoretically

but after two days its not like the nutrients are spent.

and the long answer is "it depends"...

the way some bacteria break down materials, can even be beneficial. in some cases, the dead bacteria themselves are nutrients.

there's plenty of bacteria in horse poo. cultivators choose the year old stuff that's been sitting around (mainly because you want time for the ammonia to leach out, but that's another story - point is bacteria have plenty of time to feed on that poo, with no ill results). bacteria also produces compost. both of these things, a mushroom will gladly dine on.

toss them if you want to play it safe. the original poster asked if it would be a waste; i guess which are you concerned with wasting? the contents of the jars, or the LC?  if you've got plenty of LC, give it a shot.

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Re: cheese???!? [Re: creamcorn]
    #13043308 - 08/12/10 07:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

lol @ boosie. well i smelled them when i got home from work, and they smell comparable to my work boots after 8 hours of work lol. i think im gunna just dump em out and start over. im thinking it was the rice flour fermenting or as one of you said bacteria feeding on it. either way i wouldnt eat the shrooms off of it if it did colonize so i dont want to chance it with anyone else.

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