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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #1846215 - 08/25/03 03:39 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

using salt to fight trich is mentioned by stamets in the mushroom cultivator.. he also suggests baking soda, or a combination of the two, because these ingredients affect the ph of the substrate/casing around the contamination, stopping the outward growth of the contamination


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #1849887 - 08/26/03 06:40 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I recently had a trich problem, and i was not aware of this technique at the time, but what i did is sterilize a regular kitchen knife in alcohol flame and simply cut out the trich, making sure the cut was deep enough to get rid of the entire spot, and continued with the process. I am happy to report that within a day, the cut out part regrew over with healthy mycelium.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: MrMyco]
    #1850666 - 08/26/03 02:27 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

that's a good technique, better if you salt the wound created by cutting out the infection.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #1906220 - 09/12/03 12:12 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Baking Soda also works as well as salt. It does however bring up the ph level so its good to use sparingly. Trich has ruined almost every fruiting I've had so far, but I keep plugging along and hope to get this right soon:-)


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3] * 1
    #1969286 - 10/01/03 08:53 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i have found the same to be true, that trich is the most common that has grown on my 50/50 tek casings. it actually destroyed three of my bins when i went out of town for a couple days, came back and it was too late, bright green engulfing over half of each one...
i switched too hay tek and never had a prob with it untl couple months ago when my hay got a small dot of trich...next day it grew to about dime size...
I cut away the trich, then salted the scar...I found that by spraying water on it with the salt made the salt evenly coat the scar...has worked for me ever since with 100% results  :thumbup: :mushroom2: 


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: cotinMelody]
    #2241563 - 01/14/04 09:30 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

Would it be a good idea to dunk with a saline solution cause the green I've seen usually sets in not too long after a dunking.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: wackytron]
    #2241653 - 01/14/04 09:56 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

doubtful, but i confess i've never tried.
the idea behind dry salt is it only kills what it touches,
i'd be concerned that a saline solution strong enough to kill the green would likely also kill the mycellia it touched.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #2548313 - 04/11/04 04:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

what exactly do i do when using the salt theory. just go in the kitchen grab a shaker and shake away?.....and then after that cobweb mold, do i leave the lids off for a few days of my casings? or what do i do someone please help i am loosing my crop...thanks..


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: exeeter]
    #2588216 - 04/22/04 04:31 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Someone uses salt by pouring it liberally on the area of the casing that is contaminated. Make sure to go an inch or so beyond the contam area. Then spray with water...pretty heavily....then the saline solution soaks into the casing and to the substrate...sure it will kill the mycelium it hits, but it will stop the spread of most contams...

For cobweb, you can hit it with hydrogen peroxide...that usually does the trick.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #2670265 - 05/13/04 03:46 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

what about adding salt to the water when dunking??????? would this be effective as like a protective layer?


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Myztr0]
    #2673120 - 05/13/04 07:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

a little salt is the dunk water
you might get away with
but i don't see it as very beneficial
too much salt will kill the mycellia


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #2682221 - 05/15/04 09:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I caught some small patches of Trich on some straw i have colonising , it hadn't gotten a good hold , so i tried out the salt.

First , I sprayed the area infected with salt solution with a misting bottle , then cut away a good area around it , then poured on some dry salt to the wound left by the surgery  :smile:

left it for about 3 days , then cased. I checked out the straw before casing , it looked like the trich had been beaten , the myc looked good , didn't seem to upset by the salt solution , but only time will tell... casings are incubating right now , i'll know more on monday when they will be moved into fruiting , i'll check them out carefully and monitor during fruiting stage and post what info i find.


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Inside]
    #2809350 - 06/20/04 02:59 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Just found some trich and a big turkey pan size casing of just timothy hay, horse and cow dung. 50/25/25 ratio no top casing layer. I havent run into trich for a awhile I think It may have been because of not enough fanning altough it has always gotten it atleast twice aday. Anways it was fine this morning and when I came back from the beach today there where several spots that were working their way around the mycelium the largest maybe a little smaller then a silver dollar and two the size of quarters. I first put knives on the stove burner till red hot and burn off the green. Then I salted the wounds and sprayed the entire casing with a 50/50 peroxide water mix. I have no bleach around. I am more interested in mould resistant casing layers what are some good tips. I more on the kitty litter thing earlier mentioned in this thread would be great. I will post as to the results of the casing I hope I can save it because it's the only one I will have for a little while.


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Re: The use of salt in fighting trichoderma mold [Re: Hippie3]
    #2911467 - 07/21/04 04:11 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hippie3,
Thanks for the posting. I'm battling trichoderma on my casings now and was searching the forum for a cure.
I'm giving the salt tech a try - will post results...
Thanks again


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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Hippie3]
    #2912434 - 07/21/04 10:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

has anyone tryed just puting salt in some water an misting with that would that work as a bandade till the flush was over??


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Re: The use of salt in fighting trichoderma mold [Re: cyndyl]
    #2925880 - 07/25/04 09:17 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hippie3,
It's been a few days and so far the tech is working. just thought I'd give this a vote of confidence.


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Re: The use of salt in fighting trichoderma mold [Re: cyndyl]
    #3246624 - 10/12/04 05:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: Sam1912]
    #3685505 - 01/27/05 05:39 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Shameless bump..

For anyone who has mold problems like my self...
Give this a try and see how it works

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Re: the use of salt in fighting trich [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3687913 - 01/27/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

How about spraying with salt dissolved in water? or Saltwater and some h2o2? I might give that a shot if this green mold bears its ugly head again.


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Re: The use of salt in fighting trichoderma mold [Re: Hippie3]
    #4714301 - 09/26/05 10:09 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

bump

Thanks Hippe3, this gives me some hope right now. I'm on my first grow, first flush, and near the end of it green mold comes from the netherworld to attack me in hordes. But I think me and my buddy myc can conquer this shit!


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