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The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs?
#13027907 - 08/09/10 05:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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"On July 29, Mayor Tom Leppert, Mayor Pro Tem Dwaine Caraway and Dallas Police Chief David Brown issued the joint press release calling for the ban on synthetic marijuana and salvia divinorum. The mayor got the so-called K2 ban on the fast track: The council's scheduled to make selling it or smoking it a crime punishable with a $2,000 fine on Wednesday.
But that's not all: The press release also said, at the very end, that the mayor's proposal to end the sale of fake weed would also ban the "paraphernalia used to smoke them." But it didn't specify what it meant by "paraphernalia"; neither did the vague PowerPoint presented to the council's Public Safety Committee on Monday, August 2. But a copy of the ordinance dated August 3 (scroll down to Page 31) is very specific -- and it bans the use or possession of, well, pretty much anything for sale behind the counter or behind glass at your finer smoke shops.
The City Attorney's Office wants to add Section 31-32.1 to the Dallas City Code: "Illegal Smoking Products and Related Paraphernalia Prohibited." And the products listed include, but aren't limited to:
... a metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or ceramic pipe with or without a screen, permanent screen, hashish head, or punctured metal bowl; a water pipe; a carburetion tube or device; a smoking or carburetion mask; a chamber pipe; a carburetor pipe; an electric pipe; an air-driven pipe; a chillum; a bong; or an ice pipe or chiller.
In other words, everything but rolling papers. According to the ordinance, "A person commits an offense if, in the city, he ... uses or possesses with the intent to use any illegal smoking paraphernalia to inhale, ingest, or otherwise introduce into his body any illegal smoking product." I've got calls into and e-mails out to city attorneys and law enforcement officials to clarify. Because according to one officer with whom I spoke this morning, this is no different than outlawing bongs and pipes for pot use -- as in, if an officer pulls you over and there's a water pipe in the front seat, you're good to go so long as there's no marijuana or other illegal-drug residue. The new ordinance adds synthetic cannabinoids and salvia to the outlawed list. But another officer to whom I spoke this morning says the inclusion of the word "intent" does indeed allow this to be interpreted as an attempt to ban the bong.
The ordinance, if it passes council, would go into effect August 15."
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2010/08/the_council_isnt_only_going_to.php
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nopalero
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: skatealex2]
#13028030 - 08/09/10 05:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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college kids smoking out of coke cans and tin foil on the school parking lot is a sad sight.
dallas has a law that makes giving the homeless $ a crime, i think this has chance of getting passed.
time to start collecting glass!
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orison
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13028113 - 08/09/10 05:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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so what your telling me, is that cops will sit on the corners begging for change then arrest you.. lol.. GOD BLESS AMERICA..
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nopalero
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: orison] 1
#13028188 - 08/09/10 06:09 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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orison319 said: so what your telling me, is that cops will sit on the corners begging for change then arrest you.. lol.. GOD BLESS AMERICA..
did you know texas has a law that makes selling dildos illegal? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_obscenity_statute
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Edited by nopalero (08/09/10 06:10 PM)
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lagrange6420
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13028504 - 08/09/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Joints are better if you're outside and slightly more likely to be caught, anyway. You can eat them
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: lagrange6420]
#13028758 - 08/09/10 08:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't look at the city finances ===>look over here! It's pure subterfuge too keep everyones' eyes off the details to our bridge to nowhere, our soon to be empty convention hotel and massive city debt.
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Rabid Jelly Bean
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13028888 - 08/09/10 08:54 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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nopalero said:
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orison319 said: so what your telling me, is that cops will sit on the corners begging for change then arrest you.. lol.. GOD BLESS AMERICA..
did you know texas has a law that makes selling dildos illegal? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_obscenity_statute
That's one of those old crazy laws nobody remembers. There was some bitch lady in a small town who dug it up to get someone in trouble though.
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bloodsheen
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
#13030183 - 08/10/10 02:19 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seriously Texas, please succeed from the Union so we can stop hearing you complain and watch you take liberties away from Americans. We don't need your redneck ways and quasi-desert land anymore, thanks for playing
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: bloodsheen]
#13030191 - 08/10/10 02:23 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've met a few Texans and they seem pretty cool, but I don't care at all for Texas politicians. Too far to the right for my tastes, usually.
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nopalero
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: Le_Canard]
#13038163 - 08/11/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dallas Bans K2 and Smoking Paraphernalia http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Dallas-Bans-K2-and-Smoking-Paraphernalia-100478044.html
Dallas is the latest North Texas city to ban synthetic marijuana and salvia divinorum -- and the city is also going further.
Starting Sunday, the use, possession and sale of the substances will bring a citation and a fine of up to $2,000.
Dallas Police Chief David Brown, Mayor Pro Tem Dwaine Caraway and Mayor Tom Leppert called for the ban, saying K2 a dangerous substance that is spreading among youth and adults in Dallas.
"More and more kids are using these products because they create the same effects as illegal drugs but currently are legal and easy to get," Leppert said in a July 29 press release. "The fake marijuana and salvia are just as dangerous as the real thing, and we need to move now to stop them from being sold and used."
The ordinance also seemingly bans tobacco papers, pipes, bongs and every other item a person could possibly use to smoke with. Dallas is banning the use and possession of "paraphernalia used or intended to be used to introduce synthetic cannabinoids or salvia divinorum into the human body."
Synthetic marijuana, or "spice," is a mixture of herbs and synthetic cannabinoids sold as incense. Salvia divinorum is a plant native to Mexico.
Spice is sold at gas stations and smoke shops under the name "K2," "Spice Gold," "Spice Yucatan Fire" and other names. Salvia divinorum, known as Diviner's Sage, is sold under the names "Sally D" or "Magic Mint." The substances can also be bought on the Internet.
When inhaled, both can produce a high similar to marijuana and can currently be purchased by anyone.
Synthetic cannabinoids, which were developed by some university medical researchers, mimics the effects of the ingredient in marijuana that causes a high but were not designed for human consumption, the Washington Post reported.
Councilwoman Angela Hunt was the only council member to vote against the ban, according to the Dallas Morning News.
Also on Wednesday, Van Alstyne and Highland Village passed similar K2/Salvia bans.
Three Denton teenagers called 911 seeking medical help for smoking K2 within 10 days in May.
"K2 Incense is just that: Incense, and is not sold or intended for human consumption," K2-Incense.com, a company that sells the product, said in an e-mail in May.
The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is testing K2, which is manufactured in the United States and aboard, the Washington Post reported. But testing is difficult because it is made of several substances, the newspaper reported.
In June, Mansfield became the first North Texas to city to ban the sale of K2 to anyone younger than 21. Cleburne also limits sales. Frisco, Plano, Allen, McKinney, Duncanville and Watauga have bans on sale of the incense.
State Sen. Florence Shapiro and State Rep. Ken Paxton said they'll push for a statewide ban in coming months.
First Published: Aug 11, 2010 5:11 PM CDT
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nopalero
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13038203 - 08/11/10 07:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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if they banned the stuff, why on earth do they need to ban paraphernalia. these elitists are full of it.
coke cans and ghetto rigged brass sprinkler heads are now back in style.
anyone got a match?
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13038511 - 08/11/10 08:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Apples are objects of obscene earthly venality, being capable of allowing a user to do things such as get high and keep the doctor away.
-------------------- wat man rly
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: blujay]
#13038528 - 08/11/10 08:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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blujay said: Apples are objects of obscene earthly venality, being capable of allowing a user to do things such as get high and keep the doctor away.
bwaha "puff, puff, eat"
"quit bogarting the apple man"
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Re: The City's Going to Ban Fake Weed. But Is It Also Trying to Outlaw Pipes and Bongs? [Re: nopalero]
#13040927 - 08/12/10 11:15 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMPORTANT NEWS UPDATE:
i called a local smoke shop this morning to ask them about this.. they said that the report is a blatant lie. pipes, papers, bongs are NOT banned.. they will only be illegal if they have K2, thc, etc residue in them..
they've pulled salvia and k2 from the shelves.
-------------------- the dinosaurs will be back. only that which has passed can be predicted. life is both a mirror and a window. THE GRAYS HOPE TO WIN. STOP. RAINBOW NEEDED URGENTLY.
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