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Fruit box room too hot
    #13040365 - 08/12/10 07:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hello.

Currently I'm building a shroom box which is a combination of a fruit box and a incubator under it...

I was going to have it in my room. The problem is, it's summer time and in these day the inside temperature rises to 89.6F or even more (i dont have  air condition.

What should I do to lower the temperature inside the fruit box? I was planning to use 2 computer fans (in and out) which would fan 3 times per hour for 5 minutes or so.) But im afraid that wouldn't cool the box enough...
And what would happen in winter, when inside temp is around 71.6F, would the fans lower it under 65F?

Thank you for your help :smile:


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: tornnate]
    #13040401 - 08/12/10 08:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That's very hot. Air movement will not cool it, you just blow hot air around.
(Feels cool on your skin because of evaporation.)

Your winter temperatures are much friendlier, you'll have better luck in several months I guess.
It's not impossible to grow now, but don't be sad if it doesn't work.


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: Doc_T]
    #13040421 - 08/12/10 08:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hehe, luckily i don't give up so easily. I can still make a cooling system on my own and besides... the summer is soon going to end... so i wont need to worry about the temp till next year! :laugh:


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: tornnate]
    #13040433 - 08/12/10 08:21 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly.
Same thing happens to me in winter, it's too cold for good growing.
I do some small projects, but not much until summer.


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: Doc_T]
    #13040481 - 08/12/10 08:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Buy an AC window unit and put it in the room you're growing in

I attempted a grow in temperatures around 85F and all I got out of it were monotubs full of contams. The heat put off by the substrate made it a couple degrees warmer inside the "shroom box"

Now whenever I grow indoors over summer I run a window unit and it keeps my grow room between 70-75F, and I live in Florida... Hot hot hot


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: visions]
    #13040494 - 08/12/10 09:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If your shrooms are indoors, you probably don't need to incubate. Most of what I've read about incubation around here says not to do it. If you're using bulk subs, you could easily over-incubate, no problem. They get warm, warm, warm. Haven't noticed it with the PF tek, but I'm sure they jump up a few degrees as well.


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: guywiththegun]
    #13040531 - 08/12/10 09:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

RR has previously stated that using a few damp towels placed on top of your FC with a fan blowing on it will decrease the temps a couple degrees
Never tried it myself but seems feasible


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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: tornnate]
    #13040537 - 08/12/10 09:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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tornnate said:
What should I do to lower the temperature inside the fruit box? I was planning to use 2 computer fans (in and out) which would fan 3 times per hour for 5 minutes or so.) But im afraid that wouldn't cool the box enough...
And what would happen in winter, when inside temp is around 71.6F, would the fans lower it under 65F?




any sorts of fans blowing directly in/out of your chamber will also have a side effect of blowing humidity and moisture out. so moving enough air to actually have a cooling effect will likely adversely effect moisture. (that is where some of the cooling effect comes from... water evaporating... think along the lines of why people sweat. its not the water that cools you, its air moving over the sweat, causing it to evaporate that creates the cooling)


the best way to effect the temperature of your box is to effect the temperature of the room its in, unfortunately

the higher temps aren't a death knell. the biggest thing is being extra cautious about contams, as they grow more vigorous the warmer it gets. so make sure you're getting enough fresh air exchange going on (which again might make you think fans are a good idea; but again watch that whatever you do doesn't dry things out.) but remember in nature most strains were found thriving in sub-tropical regions where the temps get even higher. its their natural habitat after all.

the cooler weather is not a problem. grows turn out fine in mid 60s. it just takes longer. there are some side effects: the fruits seem to actually be denser and weigh more for a given size fruit. ive also observed some of the best potency from slower grows. (quick crackpot theory: slower grow means longer time for fruit to mature, allowing more actives to develop? dunno, just an observation like i say, may have been coincidence; never put it to a formal test, so take with a grain of salt before anybody runs out and tries a low-temp grow expecting anything :smile:) so lower temps mean less chance of contam, and better quality fruits... you just gotta be more patient in exchange.

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Re: Fruit box room too hot [Re: creamcorn]
    #13040590 - 08/12/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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tornnate said:
What should I do to lower the temperature inside the fruit box? I was planning to use 2 computer fans (in and out) which would fan 3 times per hour for 5 minutes or so.) But im afraid that wouldn't cool the box enough...
And what would happen in winter, when inside temp is around 71.6F, would the fans lower it under 65F?




any sorts of fans blowing directly in/out of your chamber will also have a side effect of blowing humidity and moisture out. so moving enough air to actually have a cooling effect will likely adversely effect moisture. (that is where some of the cooling effect comes from... water evaporating... think along the lines of why people sweat. its not the water that cools you, its air moving over the sweat, causing it to evaporate that creates the cooling)


the best way to effect the temperature of your box is to effect the temperature of the room its in, unfortunately

the higher temps aren't a death knell. the biggest thing is being extra cautious about contams, as they grow more vigorous the warmer it gets. so make sure you're getting enough fresh air exchange going on (which again might make you think fans are a good idea; but again watch that whatever you do doesn't dry things out.) but remember in nature most strains were found thriving in sub-tropical regions where the temps get even higher. its their natural habitat after all.

the cooler weather is not a problem. grows turn out fine in mid 60s. it just takes longer. there are some side effects: the fruits seem to actually be denser and weigh more for a given size fruit. I've also observed some of the best potency from slower grows. (quick crackpot theory: slower grow means longer time for fruit to mature, allowing more actives to develop? dunno, just an observation like i say, may have been coincidence; never put it to a formal test, so take with a grain of salt before anybody runs out and tries a low-temp grow expecting anything :smile:) so lower temps mean less chance of contam, and better quality fruits... you just gotta be more patient in exchange.




Well, my plan was to filter the inbox air, so most of the humidity and moisture would stay inside (tyvek, polyester?). Or is tyvek a bad idea?

And the fan is suppose to add some 'fresh' air inside few times a day, not completely cleaning the box.



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