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OfflineOuter Heaven
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Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions.
    #13012682 - 08/06/10 02:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Today or possibly tomorrow I will be starting my first grow. I ordered my spores from freespores.com which I gotta give them props on the quick shipping and the extra syringe for free. I ordered one B+ and the free syringe that came was a Psilocybe Cubensis Hawaiian strain. Can they be raised in the same terrarium without consequences? That is question number one. Something not covered in the PF Tek video I have watched about 3 times.

Another thing I was curious of that the pf tek video did not cover is.. After steaming my jars for 90 minutes, how long do I wait before inoculating them.

Which also leads me to ask, how can I separate my jars from the bottom of the boiling pot if I don't have enough mason jar lids.

I do not intend on starting just yet until I am absolutely sure what I am doing.

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13012726 - 08/06/10 02:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yes u can have 2 strains in 1 terrarium with no problems.
wait overnight until the jars are cool to touch.
if u have a vegetable steamer or something of that sort u can put it on that bottom of the pot and put your jars on top of it. GL with the grow tho

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13012732 - 08/06/10 02:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

use the search button


also 90 minutes is long

and use a rag or some cloth

i made a rack out of wire hangers

and your not just gonna boil your jars are you ?

you need a pressure cooker


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: heeroyuy00]
    #13012743 - 08/06/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well really you dont need a PC i boiled mine and they came out just fine about 60-75 minutes of boiling is good. PC is way better if u have access to one tho. just use anything thick enough on the bottom so the substrate doesnt get cooked by the heat.

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: wrestlingstud30]
    #13012809 - 08/06/10 02:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you might as well just innoc them without doing anything then


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: wrestlingstud30]
    #13012813 - 08/06/10 02:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You can buy a pack of lids, usually anywhere that sells the jars. They will come in handy if you stick
with this hobby anyhow.

Steaming is fine you do not need a pc for BRF.

90 minutes is fine, I actually PC BRF this long.

You need to wait until the jar is cooled to room temp all the way through. Better safe than
sorry, 8 hours should be sufficient.

If you really don't want to buy more lids to line the pot, just get creative. Find an old
cooling/drying rack you can trim down. You could probably roll some aluminum foil nice and
thick, then criss cross them across the bottom.


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Numinosum]
    #13012825 - 08/06/10 02:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok hero, care to explain why THIS TEK works for just about every beginner starting at the shroomery?


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Numinosum]
    #13012918 - 08/06/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You can grow different strains together without a problem but if you plan on making spore prints you'll want to keep track of which cake is which for identification purposes.

Make sure the jars are at room temperature before inoculating them.

90 minutes is perfect for doing the steam method. You don't want to go any less than that.

If you stick with this hobby you'll want to invest in a pressure cooker in which case you can reduce the time to 60 minutes and also move to grain and WBS (wild bird seed).

Good luck!


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: nexus1946]
    #13013047 - 08/06/10 03:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys I really appreciate the help.

Upon watching the video (bfr pf tek http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek) yet again, can somebody explain to me how the shotgun terrarium works? Also I was wondering, since they said drill holes in the bottom, wont it make it wet where I place it?

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13013287 - 08/06/10 04:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

RR explains how it works, it has to do with air pressures.

Yes you need holes in all six sides.

It shouldn't be dripping water so no it won't make it wet. Also you need to elevate it so that
air can circulate from the bottom.


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Numinosum]
    #13013410 - 08/06/10 04:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Numinosum said:
RR explains how it works, it has to do with air pressures.

Yes you need holes in all six sides.

It shouldn't be dripping water so no it won't make it wet. Also you need to elevate it so that
air can circulate from the bottom.





Awesome, now I believe I have my final questions. I keep coming up with questions as I do more and more research.

1. How often should I mist those things.

2. How often and how long should I put a fan in front of it.

3. How long should I leave the lights on, and is artificial light alright?

On a side note I will be putting my terrarium in a closet, it will not be on a floor, the closet has a little elevated place probably 1 1/2' high in it (it's a pretty fucking awesome closet.)The closet also has a light in it. (It really is a sick closet) Is this sick ass closet a suitable place for my terrarium?

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13013424 - 08/06/10 04:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Outer Heaven said:

1. How often should I mist those things.
Quote:

heeroyuy00 said:
use the search button






2. How often and how long should I put a fan in front of it.
Quote:

heeroyuy00 said:
use the search button






3. How long should I leave the lights on, and is artificial light alright?
Quote:

heeroyuy00 said:
use the search button









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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13013427 - 08/06/10 04:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Technically you should mist when it needs it.

But 3-5 times a day is about average. You fan heavily after misting to help evaporation.

Lights should be on 12/12 with a bulb that is close to  6500K. The package should tell
you the color range. The bulb can either be CFL or a regular florescent.

When I say elevated, I mean that the bottom shouldn't be flat on the surface. elevate with
a couple of books, or wooden blocks etc.


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Molester]
    #13013442 - 08/06/10 04:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yeah son


also RR's tek work because he most likely uses one...
in the video he even says "you never know what kind of things just fell in there


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Numinosum]
    #13013548 - 08/06/10 05:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Numinosum said:
Technically you should mist when it needs it.

But 3-5 times a day is about average. You fan heavily after misting to help evaporation.

Lights should be on 12/12 with a bulb that is close to  6500K. The package should tell
you the color range. The bulb can either be CFL or a regular florescent.

When I say elevated, I mean that the bottom shouldn't be flat on the surface. elevate with
a couple of books, or wooden blocks etc.




Yeah I know you meant it shouldn't be flat on it's surface, the bottom needs to breathe. My research however said that the terrarium should not be near the carpet cause mad germs and shit are on the carpet. Here is a pic of the thing, [image] http://tinypic.com/r/iyd839/4 [/image] That is my FC, on top of it is the failed FC which I now use to put my supplies in, inside of it is my glove box. WHich is pretty useless info, but just in case you were wondering, that is the facts. However I was wondering is that too close to the carpet?

Edited by Outer Heaven (08/06/10 05:08 PM)

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13014604 - 08/06/10 08:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

gotta know the answer to that last question.

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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13014628 - 08/06/10 09:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Molester]
    #13030823 - 08/10/10 08:54 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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here this link might help you
take the initiative and use the means to get your questions answered





Sorry d00d but I'm not to sure that anything on this message board can answer if MY Closet is a decent enough space to put my terrarium. If I was asking about a generic closet I'd probably go ahead and use the search.


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Re: Preparing to start my first grow. Need a few questions. [Re: Outer Heaven]
    #13030862 - 08/10/10 09:07 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Outer Heaven said:
Sorry d00d but I'm not to sure that anything on this message board can answer if MY Closet is a decent enough space to put my terrarium.





I'm quite certain that none of us can answer that specifically.
Other than to say closets don't work, and don't grow in your mom's house anyway.


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