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Casing a Fully Colonized Tray?
    #13028453 - 08/09/10 07:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hi All

I have:

Fully Colonized Tray
10" x 16" x 4"
Strain B+
2 qts colonized WBS
4 qts pastuerized coir
4 qts pastuerized hpoo
couple handfulls of pastuerized straw

casing layer: 1/2" pastuerized peat/verm/gypsum

My question is do you prefer to:

1) Case a fully colonized tray and put it right into the fruiting chamber and initiate fruiting

or

2) Case the fully colonized tray and incubate it for a few days and the put it in the fruiting chamber and initiate fruiting

I've seen both ways and haven't really noticed a difference in speed or output and was just wondering other people experiences.

Thanks
Shaq

Edited by ShaqAttack (08/09/10 07:26 PM)

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: ShaqAttack]
    #13028483 - 08/09/10 07:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If I was going to case, I'd build everything at once.


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You make it all possible. Doesn't it feel good?

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: Doc_T]
    #13028631 - 08/09/10 07:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've always been under the understanding that you case and then incubate for a few days, mainly to let it absorb nutrients from the casing layer.

Anyone else?

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: Aito]
    #13028643 - 08/09/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You want it to colonize the casing layer a little bit.
But yeah, put it all together at once then let it sit and colonize.

Edited by jugular69 (08/09/10 07:56 PM)

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: jugular69]
    #13029837 - 08/10/10 12:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

the casing layer should havent any nutrients for it to absorb
also its only to provide moisture and humidity in a micro climate

so the evaporation from the casing layer causes pinning
thats why your fanning and misting
unless you have a system like mine

then FAE and light

those are the three major pinning triggers

some people say you should case some say you shouldent
i get smaller but more mushrooms from cased and larger but less from uncased
and they both weigh out to the same

EDIT; forgot to answer question lol

with cubes case then let colonize for 24 hours then throw in the FC
with pan cyans case and throw right into FC

of course some people just case and toss in no matter what
its all about climate and individual tastes 

Edited by jokefox (08/10/10 12:11 AM)

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: ShaqAttack]
    #13030160 - 08/10/10 02:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

#2.

If you are going to case, allow a few days for the mycelium to run into the casing layer. When its starting to break the surface in places, it's ready. remember that introduction to fresh air, and light, are triggers its time, and by putting it in right away you're sending that signal when the mycelium is still completely under a half inch of casing...

See: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3290155

For killer pinsets...

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In the grand scheme, I don't know that "speed" nor "output" is drastically altered in the long run but doesn't it look nice to have a forest of a flush? :smile: In both cases its probably 6 of one half dozen the other, a poor pin set means there's energy & resources for larger individuals even if fewer (thought a 4" depth can handle some pretty packed pinsets) and sustained later flushes if contams are kept at bay (but that's an argument for getting more eggs in the first flush basket). If you've tried both ways and dont see a difference, go with what feels good :thumbup: but as long as you're casing try hyphae's tips in that post above once before you decide...

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Re: Casing a Fully Colonized Tray? [Re: creamcorn]
    #13030170 - 08/10/10 02:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

my pinset was good , i only used 1/4 inch of casing
let colonize one day
and threw into FC
but like i said its all about taste

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