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 Re: If we believe that we are God...  [Re: LucidDreams]
#1300343 - 02/11/03 02:29 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe its because god wasn't a human when he created the universe, and although the knowledge of god being inside us, we do not have the knowledge OF god, only the knowledge stored in the subconscious. I'm sure god had to learn how to create the universe just as we learn about our source, Earth.
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 Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: DrubuShrume]
#1300710 - 02/11/03 05:25 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, we help God/Creation to constantly evolve the universe through our collective experiences.
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 Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: johnnyfive]
#1300934 - 02/11/03 07:54 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah power to the drug users!! 
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: johnnyfive]
#1301076 - 02/11/03 09:56 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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From 2003 to 2012, we will be smacked with wave after wave of conceiusness. (of course if your not control mindfully) If my theory is true, we will start assuming a very god like position in our realitys.
Can you explain what you mean a little more?
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 Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: johnnyfive]
#1301080 - 02/11/03 10:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was just kidding by the way. I understand what you mean. 
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: enotake2]
#1302152 - 02/12/03 08:57 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im talking about god's power's
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum11&Number=1231174&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
I guess the difference in a person understanding the end of times, is that any fighting( resistance of anything other than control ) will only equal fighting. Perhaps be humble(like a modern day, gadi, jesus of nazerieth??), follow the mind's eye, and it will set you free.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: johnnyfive]
#1302297 - 02/12/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
follow the mind's eye, and it will set you free.
so you know.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: shaggy101]
#1303198 - 02/12/03 03:40 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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indeed
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 Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Swami]
#1305460 - 02/13/03 10:16 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just had a shocking realization about this topic last night that came out of nowhere. With everything being one being, one entity, ie. God, Prime Creator, etc; that means that it/you/I are operating everything in existence at once, but we don't yet know it because that much knowledge would destroy us. What I mean is, if you were to become aware that YOU are also EVERY other thing/person, and YOU are actually thinking/doing EVERYTHING that those entities are thinking/doing, THIS WOULD DRIVE A HUMAN COMPLETELY MAD. And I have a feeling quite a few residents of your local mental institution are aware of this. That's why there is a feeling of separateness, as we can only handle operating one entity at a time (our "selves"). Everything else we are being, we are being at a completely unconscious level. So the process of spiritual evolution includes literally "expanding" our consciousness to include more of existence, and operating more completely as One.
This was the most mindblowing thing I've ever thought while sober. Sadly this won't be announced on CNN Headline News. 
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: ]
#1305485 - 02/13/03 10:25 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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oooo, very good point. i'll have to meditate on this.
ISH
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: ]
#1305548 - 02/13/03 10:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see it like that....
I feel we're all just PART of this thing. Kinda like how a liver is part of our body, and how a molecule is part of that liver, and how an atom is part of that molecule, and an electron is part of that atom, and a quark is part of that electron and so on and so on.......
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Strumpling]
#1305832 - 02/13/03 12:49 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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i thought about this subject a lot, and i think god is controlling some species lower than you. I mean, we control when the cows on the meat farm are born, fed, where they go, and when they die, aren't we playing god with animals we produce for food? God has control over what happens, and if you can gain that control, your a god in a sense. Thats only my opinion of course, but i also consider myself an atheist and think i don't need religion cause i have a concious that tells me whats right and wrong.
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 Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Swami]
#1305845 - 02/13/03 12:54 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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When will you guyz realize that theres no god.
Anyway if theres one ill go to heaven wathever i do, cause god pardon everyone.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: djurg]
#1306032 - 02/13/03 02:08 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you elaborate on your point of view?
Thanks
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: ISH]
#1306076 - 02/13/03 02:35 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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The reason why i don't believe in god, is that if there was a being with such incredible intelligence and power to create a whole world and all this life, and give us free will, then why would he tell us we have to spend all sunday every sunday worshipping him? I just think that if there was a god he would be a little more humble than that.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: CockyMandrill]
#1306082 - 02/13/03 02:40 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
The reason why i don't believe in god, is that if there was a being with such incredible intelligence and power to create a whole world and all this life, and give us free will, then why would he tell us we have to spend all sunday every sunday worshipping him? I just think that if there was a god he would be a little more humble than that
Your worldview and ideas of god are extremely limited. This world is but a small insect, on a branch of the smallest tree, in an infinite forest of much larger trees. God never said anyone should worship "him" on sunday's. Christianity did not invent God, and he is not exclusive to christianity. Many deny the existence of God, because they are limited to what they are told about God, which is typically a load of shit, with a corn of truth hidden somewhere inside.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Remy]
#1306100 - 02/13/03 02:50 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you believe in evolution then you would know we all evolved from the same thing..every damn thing in this universe came from something and that something from something else..it keeps going on like that until you come to the point of the very first creation...........god, or the basis for creation...the atom of the atom of the atom of the atom, etc...
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Swami]
#1306167 - 02/13/03 03:16 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really good question. Seriously good question.
I just finished a 600+ page book called 'Mysticism: Experience, Response and Empowerment,' by Hollenback. A University of Pennsylvania publication that I disagreed with in part because he lumped astral projection and psi functions, as well as non-universal forms of religious experience (i.e., Black Elk's visions) together under the rubric 'mysticism.' [It's a good thing that Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller, can sell a $99.00 text for $15.00!]
Ken Wilber modernizes an ancient Gnostic system of classification in a way that separates 3 realms of experience. That realm which he calls "Intermediate" is what Gnostics used to call 'psychic.' Spiritual experiences belong to a further realm. The point is that a preponderance of so-called 'religious experiences' actually belong to this intermediary or psychic realm, not a truly spiritual or pneumatic realm. Indeed, Radical changes across the intrapsychic board (morality, intellect, intuition, sometimes psi functions, faith) do result from genuine religious - spiritual - experience.
In the 1970's, and always under LSD, I had what parapsychologists call "Ring-like-a-bell-in-the-head" telepathy. On a couple of occasions, recognzing that I was 'hearing' someone's words in my mind, without the sensation of my ears (they weren't speaking), I repeated what I 'heard' and witnessed jaw-dropping fear from those individuals. In situations with strangers who would never have spoken aloud what I 'heard' in my mind, I kept my mouth shut. These experiences had nothing to do with any concommitant increase in compassion, or morality, or faith. The point being, that 'psychic' experiences are certainly of a different order than 'physical' sensory experiences, but they are far removed from the kind of 'spiritual' experiences that change all those dimensions that one would expect from a truly religious experience. Those kinds of experiences changed me into the strange creation that you meet through these posts. I was quite different before the spiritual realm entered into my rather materialistic psyche.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: shaggy101]
#1307371 - 02/14/03 05:16 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh sorry man didn't mean to be rude, i don't know what will happen i can only guess, but its true to me though.
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Re: If we believe that we are God... [Re: Swami]
#1307398 - 02/14/03 05:27 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was just thinking about something kida wierd... excuse me if this doesn't really fit into the converstion!
When I started smoking weed & drinking, I used to think that I was going to hell because I was doing all kinds of bad shit. But, when I tripped for the first time I started thinking about things in a was that I never had before. Now, I kind of think that if there is a God he is the one that put the drugs on the earth & that he either inteded us to use them or they are supposed to be a temptation that we are not supposed to fall for. But the way I thought of it was that he gave us these things to use to broaden our thoughts... to open our minds & to think beyond our wildest imagination & think of things you might never think of in a sober state!
Does anyone think thismakes sense or am I just rambling about nothing?
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