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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Strumpling]
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Not everyone wants to do shrooms. There are people who just want a light drug like marijuana, and just aren't interested in the power of mushrooms.

Weed may kinda suck, but it is light, and easy, and you can do it anytime. Shrooms are a more serious matter, and so not as many people want them, or want them as often.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Amber_Glow]
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right, so weed is way more popular :wink:


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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Strumpling]
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Don't follow it too much; people WILL take advantage of you. 


Yes, this happens :wink:  I just make a mental note of it, and carry on my way. 


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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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I have "sold" shrooms to a couple of close friends and 2 of my cousins, but in reality I just front the damn things and never get any money in return ;-P As long as I trust the people I'm giving them to, and as long as I have a few left for me to eat I don't feel bad at all. Now dealing on a large scale I would have a problem with.


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Like a fiend in a cloud
With howling woe,
After night I do croud
And with night will go;
I turn my back to the east,
From whence comforts have increas'd;
For light doth seize my brain
With frantic pain.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Nirvhead]
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is even dealing on a large scale a bad thing?
obviously it's a dumb idea to risk that much jail time, but is it wrong to say grow five lbs of shrooms and sell them at $30 an eigth?
i know thats pricey, but the risk increases the price for sure.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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Its a proven fact:

DRUG DEALERS SUPPORT TERRORISM!

When you buy, you kill a judge, an inoccent lady, and blah blah blah.....
dont you guys trust your government?


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"Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.

Lest we forget. "

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Azmodeus]
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So what is the going price for a bag of shrooms these days anyway? How much am i looking to pay if i want to buy a bag of shrooms, that is enough for two (2) people to experience a decent (level 3) trip? OR if this is not how they are generally sold...then how are they usually sold?


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All refrences to and statements concerning mushrooms, mushroom cultivation, and mushroom related paraphrenalia refer specifically to the cultivation of legal species.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: vaporbrains]
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$20 an eighth around here... Might be enough to split two ways. If not you're looking at $40.


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Like a fiend in a cloud
With howling woe,
After night I do croud
And with night will go;
I turn my back to the east,
From whence comforts have increas'd;
For light doth seize my brain
With frantic pain.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Nirvhead]
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around here $20 an eigth is real cheap.
i just started growing, and i used to pay up to 40.
i think 20 is pretty fair

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: Nirvhead]
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So, since an ounce is 28.3495 grams. i'm looking at $20 dollars (or more) for approximately 3.5 grams of DRIED mushrooms? is that correct?


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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: vaporbrains]
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yep, at least.

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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Seems to me like another Sacred-Profane situation. To a drunk, a cup of wine is just more poison to feed an addiction. The same cup of wine can be a vehicle for transcendence in the Christian Sacrament of the Eucharist - a Sacred act.

Prostitutes sell their bodies. Sex can also be another compulsion, an addiction to carnal pleasure. Sex can also be the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony - the Tantra of the West - another vehicle for transcendence, for the communication of pure Love between men and women (excuse my heterosexism here).

Now, it is probably true that really homely or disfigured men may never have the opportunity to experience feminine beauty unless they pay for it. So perhaps one should not deny a degree of compassion even in the act of a prostitute's sale of her body. And, there might be a situation in which an alcoholic in the midst of life-threatening alcoholic withdrawal convulsions could be given a drink of wine to temporarily extend his life til he could be brought to medical detox. But, if there is ANY comprehension about this notion of Sacred and Profane - any understanding at all - then I cannot find any grounds for selling mushrooms other than simple greed. To me, it is the difference between a loving husband and a pimp. Anyone who wishes to ingest mushrooms can easily obtain spores and a couple of jars, and even use a non-pressurized, inexpensive covered pot, to prepare the mushroom. One need not deal with individuals that take something simple, natural and private, and sell it on the street like a sleazy pimp or pusher. This criminal mentality makes for yet another generation of persecution, prosecution and propaganda about the War on Drugs. So, thanks for nothing - those of you who are not even JUST like your parents' generation - but worse.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Well, you had me........








and then you lost me.


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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I cannot find any grounds for selling mushrooms other than simple greed. To me, it is the difference between a loving husband and a pimp. Anyone who wishes to ingest mushrooms can easily obtain spores and a couple of jars, and even use a non-pressurized, inexpensive covered pot, to prepare the mushroom. One need not deal with individuals that take something simple, natural and private, and sell it on the street like a sleazy pimp or pusher.


first, not everybody is living in a situation where they can grow their own shrooms, so how are they going to get them besides buying them?
second, not everybody has the desire to grow their own, so how are they going to get them besides buying them?
third, what is wrong with making some money off of the fruits of your labor? if you grow more than you can take yourself, are you just supposed to let the rest go to waste?
fourth, anyone paying for a drug than is not physically addictive is making a rational choice that they would like to trade money for the drug, why should we deny people the right to buy what they want?
fifth, of course as everyone has said giving them away is better, but giving away anything is better than selling it. The world we live in doesn't just give things away. We (at least americans and much of the world) live in a capitalistic society and put ourselves at a disadvantage by giving away what we worked to get

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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Mark raved:

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But, if there is ANY comprehension about this notion of Sacred and Profane - any understanding at all - then I cannot find any grounds for selling mushrooms other than simple greed. To me, it is the difference between a loving husband and a pimp.



i don't think your interpretation of the whole sacred / profane dyad is valid. selling psychedelic mushrooms is hardly analogous to pimping out one's spouse. mushrooms are organic packages for psychotropic substances. substances that can perhaps help one to obtain a "sacred" state of mind, but none the less merely substances. i fail to see how selling these substances profanes them. the shroom dealer performs a service, a dangerous one at that, by distributing these "sacred" substances to people who would perhaps never come into contact with them, and why shouldn't he profit from such a service?
you say these people are greedy and i would agree only in one case: the dealer is charging an excessive amount of money for the shrooms in a dry market. that alone would fit the dictionary definition of the word greedy.


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This criminal mentality makes for yet another generation of persecution, prosecution and propaganda about the War on Drugs.



You have some really backward ideas. have you noticed? we live in a capitalist society. things are bought and sold. your argument that everyone can just grow thier own mushrooms can't be generalized very well. what about LSD, Ecstasy, or other designer psychedlics? these substance are difficult to make correctly and dangerous to handle and distribute. would you also say that selling LSD is profane? do you propose we all sythesize our own acid? no? well, then the people who do put together LSD labs and take upon themselves the risk of distributing it should do so out of the goodness of thier hearts? and will you be sending them care packages when they're rotting in prision? the same argument is applicable to mushroom growers.

i love the way you blame the drug dealers for the war on drugs. have you ever considered the fact that without a War on Drugs to create the markets for blackmarket drugs there would be no drug dealers to begin with? of course, the corporations and small business would pick up the slack, but hey! that's legitimate business! not greed!


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Edited by vaporbrains (02/11/03 09:41 AM)

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I was waiting for a post I could agree with.

Yours is it.

Thanks for posting that.

Cheers,

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: vaporbrains]
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Read the "Be Nice" policy if you haven't done so already.

It is better to address the argument than attack the arguer and personalize yoru remarks.

Your points are noted however.

Cheers,

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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Anybody who buys drugs has no moral ground to look down upon people people who sell drugs.

Period.


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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: flow]
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Your response to my point about the Sacred was the Profane one - "capitalism." Period.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (02/12/03 09:12 AM)

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Re: selling mushrooms=bad?? [Re: vaporbrains]
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Oh, did I blame drug dealers for the War on Drugs? I didn't even address the cause of that campaign. Those who sell mushrooms treat the mushrooms AS an illegal drug, rather than as a Sacrament. It depends on what type of mind you have operating...what kind of eyes you have. Catholics do not deny the molecular make-up of wine and its ethyl alcohol content, but they do not regard Communion wine to be a drug, technically or otherwise. Not because the AMOUNT taken is not intended to induce intoxication, but because the physical properties of wine are not 'figure,' they are 'ground' as they say in Gestalt Psychology. That aspect is in the background. Your mentality would see wine as a mere intoxicant, no different than the bottle-in-a-brown-paper-bag-imbibing-bum-on-the-street. Obviously you're not going to want to see the difference between intentionality that defines Sacred and Profane, since you still believe that on this score you can live in the 'gray' area, which is to say in your own [Jungian] Shadow.

And, just like the other guy who objected to my "backward" (i.e., read, Moral) ideas, you likewise have countered the Sacred with "capitalist" philosophy. So again, greed vs. the Sacred.


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