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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1333843 - 02/25/03 09:30 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

One of the bags had a sour smell, but no visible contamination growth. He took some of the stinky chunks out and recrumbled the good ones. How long till recuperation, and is it even possible?


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: 21p]
    #1334459 - 02/25/03 12:36 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

sour smell is bad, throw it out. did you poke needle size holes in the bag. and did you clean the area well. check out this post at www.nansnook.com. there are some positive results posted. a few of them say colonization in 3 days!


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1335462 - 02/25/03 05:25 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

DUDE!!!! looking great!!!! i'm goint to try this ASAP. you said 3 bags contamed out of 50? so you have 47 left? how many jars used? and be sure to post your total yield. also i was thinking instead of mixing 1 colonized jar to 3 sterile uncolonized jars, could'nt you just sterilize and innoculate all your jars and then sterilze large amounts of BRF or bird seed via some mugeyvering a vegie steamer just before you want to mix in the bag. i'm striving for least amount of work and most yield here so i might be cutting corners, but is it possible to sterilize large amouts of BRF in a veggie steamer or even in a large metal pot with water and large container full-o-the stuff. ifso you could use all your jars to spawn the stuff and not have to sterilize every jar that your going to mix together any ways. just a thought,


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: iconoclast]
    #1339326 - 02/27/03 05:12 AM (18 years, 3 days ago)

you could but this is not advisible if something contams. a foaf woulndt steam birdseed unless you pre steep it in a pot. otherwise you are begging for contams.  just follow the tek!  bigger isn't always better!just use 4 uncolonized per 1 and it should take around 3-5 days to colonize!








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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1340381 - 02/27/03 12:07 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

So the guys lazy bags are as follows: 6 days... 1 fully colonized, 2 partially with some sour rot on top. Can he throw away the rot and fruit the cakes? He's had some success with this method, and the cakes are already 75% colonized. A few separated  chunks smell like rotten alligator turds :tongue:  What are your friends yields on those bad boys? Does the ratio total out to 4 jars in a bag or 5? Your tek really rocks man! It seems you've come up with a new way to extend substrate production via a mini-spawn technique. In that guys case, he's had problems with the the air exchange method. The plastic bags could probably stand a little tightening on sterility (from my friends experiences so far). However, It is surely stokeworthy....  great job..   


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1340461 - 02/27/03 12:29 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

You get five shrooms for this ^_^

anyway, my question is, can you take a little bit out of the bag, right before fruiting, recrumble it, and put it in another bag of verm/brf and have that one grow?


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: Sombie]
    #1340469 - 02/27/03 12:32 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

yes, and 21p throw it out!!!!!!!!


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1342223 - 02/28/03 07:53 AM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Hahaha.....1 bag has been dunked. 1 ziploc with small and separated chunks of sour rot had a few pieces removed. He spawned them to another zip (against apparent orders) with hopes of seeing growth. He predicts rhizos in the new bag and death for the rotten chunks 'o verm in #2. Results will be posted...


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: 21p]
    #1342666 - 02/28/03 11:45 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

21p i don't know what you or your friend is doing but it sounds scary, i would throw out any sour smelling anything. here are the results of this tek and i have tested them myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1364391 - 03/11/03 01:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"all words were forwarded by my neighbors manager @ kfc"
where would be a good place to store those bags? my closet isnt really the most sterile place & im not sure where i could keep the bag after ive transfered in the substrate & fully colonized cake...


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: Joker902]
    #1367608 - 03/12/03 02:32 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Bump fer jokers question??


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #1368216 - 03/12/03 07:43 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Would a spawn bag with a built-in filter patch work instead of a ziploc with holes?


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: Tonearm]
    #1369528 - 03/12/03 03:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I've read this whole thread from start to finish and I must say it is intriguing. My friend's chinchilla had some difficulty with casing rye, the most significant being cobweb mold on the top casing layer. The chinchilla was wondering, could he use this tek with rye? If so, he has two more questions: 1) What is the best way to sterilize the ziploc bags? and 2) What is the method for "birthing" the bags?

IMO, this really should be added as an official tek, maybe after some "pros" try it out.

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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: robinhood2]
    #1369546 - 03/12/03 03:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

ziplocs come sterile brand new


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: exile]
    #1369573 - 03/12/03 03:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

pfffffff.....I wouldn't trust something coming out of the Ziploc (Dupont?) bag factory to arrive "sterile" after being processed, packed, shipped, and on the shelf at the store for however long. C'mon we need to be more meticulous than that!


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: robinhood2]
    #1369685 - 03/12/03 04:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i dont think they come officialy sterile. like when you buy rubber gloves, theier are sterile, and non-sterile. One has just been made sure that it is sterile. With the High temperature process that is required to produce these bag's, thier would be nothing surviving. And once in the box, they are sealed, and have no nutrtional value. They would not attract any growth. The only growth would be on the box, which would be rare, since the cardboard is most likely kept dry.


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: Phychotron]
    #1370029 - 03/12/03 05:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Well, i'll let u know how mine went.. I couldnt find any large ziploack bags so i used an old one i found.. it had somephotos in it, i just rinsed it out, it *looked* clean enough :smile:

Oh yeah, i only did this becauase I had assumed i still had clean, unused gallon ziplock left.. i had already reached the point on no return when i realized the box was emnpty, so thats why i used the bag with the photos in it. I hope it works :confused:


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: GWAR]
    #1370863 - 03/12/03 09:57 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hey what about the second question? The main point of my question was to inquire about the birthing method, but I feel we got side-tracked on the bag thing.


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: robinhood2]
    #1370956 - 03/12/03 10:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

check his flat cake tek its in his signature


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Re: Eatyualives Lazy Mofo Bag Tek [Re: Joker902]
    #1372615 - 03/13/03 12:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

update on my bag--

It's doing great!!! I think i'm gonna do some poo with it :smile:

so yeah, out of the factory ziplocks are fine, no need to sterilize.. mine was a used baggie and it worked!!

but then again.. it is not yet fully colonized, it's been 4 days, but it doesnt smel sour so...
my grow area is a little colder than it should be... i've noticed it always takes a little longer for my jars than most ppls.. i can't really help that at the moment, it's still winter here (we got like a foot of snow lastnight!!!) and i'm not going to go out and buy any kind of heate at this point.. i can have a little patience


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