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Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium
    #13006201 - 08/05/10 09:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've been wanting to make this post just to raise some awareness in the community as to the availability of secure instant messaging via two wonderful chat clients called Pidgin (best option on a PC) and Adium (best option on a Mac.)  Adium comes with an OTR (Off-the-Record) plugin built in, while Pidgin requires the download of a separate OTR plugin that is quite easy to get and install.

I've been hanging with a couple of folk lately who haven't got me paranoid exactly (I subscribe to Terence McKenna's statement that paranoia is doing the work of the man for the man) but who do have me thinking about communicating about certain things more securely.

Both these chat clients are actually just better and more user-friendly, in my experience, than AIM itself, and can be used with AIM accounts.

Download Adium for your Mac here

Download Pidgin Here

OTR Plug-in for Pidgin

Toodles!


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006215 - 08/05/10 09:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Let's chat.  You and I.


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #13006238 - 08/05/10 09:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You want we should do this here, or over secure tunnels through the interwebs? I miss you.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006368 - 08/05/10 10:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I use Adium, it works perfectly.

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: idiotek]
    #13006383 - 08/05/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah.  I don't have the internet at home but when I take my laptop to cafes etc I use Tor as well.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: idiotek]
    #13006384 - 08/05/10 10:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I used to use this a while back but only managed to convince one other friend to get it so it felt pointless and i stopped.


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: The_Ghost]
    #13006387 - 08/05/10 10:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I used to use this a while back but only managed to convince one other friend to get it so it felt pointless and i stopped.




Yeah not all my friends are gonna get it, but as for the ones who won't there are some things I simply won't talk to them about over the interwebs.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006397 - 08/05/10 10:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah.  I don't have the internet at home but when I take my laptop to cafes etc I use Tor as well.




Tor/Vidalia?  I have the Tor plugin installed as well for Firefox.  How are you liking the Macbook?

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: idiotek]
    #13006404 - 08/05/10 10:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Certain ISP's will record actions done through tor since it's considered "sketchy".  If you're at a coffee house I wouldn't worry too much as long as others are using the internet as well.


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: idiotek]
    #13006407 - 08/05/10 10:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah.  It's a good thing to have. Anonymity, as far as I'm concerned, is a right worth exercising.

I'm loving the MacBook Pro.  It's glorious.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006408 - 08/05/10 10:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

doesn't aim have this feature?  you turn it on and it automatically turns on if the other person has this too?

i remember for a long time i got the "encrypted session" message at the beginning of aim conversations.


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: truekimbo2]
    #13006477 - 08/05/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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doesn't aim have this feature?  you turn it on and it automatically turns on if the other person has this too?

i remember for a long time i got the "encrypted session" message at the beginning of aim conversations.




do you really trust aol that much?


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: bbl337]
    #13006489 - 08/05/10 10:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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doesn't aim have this feature?  you turn it on and it automatically turns on if the other person has this too?

i remember for a long time i got the "encrypted session" message at the beginning of aim conversations.




do you really trust aol that much?




Yeah, I don't trust AIM's off-the-record, nor do I trust gmail's off the record on g-chat.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006504 - 08/05/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Are you organizing huge scale drug or terrorist plots on AIM?  :smirk:

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: idiotek]
    #13006551 - 08/05/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

More like large scale public orgies.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006566 - 08/05/10 10:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't trust AIM's off-the-record, nor do I trust gmail's off the record on g-chat.




G-Chat's off the record only means that the conversation won't be logged in your "Chat" folder thing.

And while Pidgin is cool because of the encryption, I find the interface to be... Craptastic. I really like Digsby but the developers couldn't really give a fuck if their users want encryption, people have been requesting it for 2 years.

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: Gumby]
    #13006635 - 08/05/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i recently switched to pidgin after using trillian for many years.

I think i like trillian a little bit better, but its about the same.  I haven't looked through the pidgin plugins yet.


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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: truekimbo2]
    #13006640 - 08/05/10 10:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Might wanna give Digsby a try too. Has a very clean look and feel but it definitely does lack a bit on the plugins and functionality.

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #13006706 - 08/05/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Giving Pidgin a shot now.  :thumbup:  I agree with Gumby, the interface looks...eh...  dated.  :lol:  I'm all about private convos though, thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Off-the-Record Instant Messaging: Pidgin/Adium [Re: bbl337]
    #13006800 - 08/05/10 11:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've been using pidgin, and while it might look dated, I really don't care.  I'm the kind of person to prefer functionality over aesthetics


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