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Pan cyan question
    #13003653 - 08/04/10 08:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't found a tek that addresses how to grow pan cyans clearly enough for me to understand (I sound dumb I know). This is what I think the process is, please correct me if I'm wrong.

1-Prepare spawn (in this case popcorn or WBS) and inoculate

2-Do NOT shake

3-When fully colonized spawn to pasteurized horse manure (will it work alone?) at a 1:4 ratio

4-Substrate must be 1&1/2 inch deep

5-Once the bulk sub is fully colonized add a 1/4 inch horse manure casing and put into fruiting conditions

6- treat as a cube

Is this procedure right?


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Re: Pan cyan question [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #13003734 - 08/04/10 08:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

1- Popcorn and wbs will work, but rye berries are best.
2- Shaking once at 20% colonization is fine, even with pans.
3- Spawn to manure yes, but add up to 50% vermiculite in your bulk substrate mixture. In my experience pans will do better in a 1-1 or 1-2, as opposed to 1-4 spawn ratio.
4- Yes.
5- Add a 1/4 inch casing layer. Don't use manure. Use 50/50 vermiculite/peat moss. Mix and bring to field capacity, then pasteurize.
6- Mostly, you need to be delicate when misting after the casing. They abort easily so you want to take it easy on the misting, especially when the pins have arrived.


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Re: Pan cyan question [Re: prismism]
    #13003764 - 08/04/10 08:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Could the bulk su be 50/50 poo/coir instead, as well as the casing only being coir?

I can't get verm in my area and shipping costs are upwards of 20 USD


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Re: Pan cyan question [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #13003803 - 08/04/10 08:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Vermiculite can be found almost everywhere, perhaps you're not looking in the right places. You can probably get away with using 50/50 coir/poo for the bulk. Coir does a good job of adding fluffiness and water retention. The casing however, you really want to use something non-nutritive. Verm/peat/hydrated lime is the perfect casing.


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Re: Pan cyan question [Re: prismism]
    #13003856 - 08/04/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've looked pretty much everywhere here, Mexico hasn't caught on with the home gardening trend yet so it's kinds difficult to find stuff that would be common in the states/canada


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Re: Pan cyan question [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #13003965 - 08/04/10 08:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Cultivating Panaeolus (Coplandia) Species..Trops or Cyanescens
By: ralphster44


You will find your cultivation efforts very similar to cultivating any Cubensis strain.
I have tried several different substrates and my substrate of choice is Pennington?s brand Finch seed. It seems to colonize quicker and with less problems.

Lightly boil your seed in water for 45 minutes or an hour. Let it steep, to absorb as much water as it can. Then put in a colander and rinse with tap water to wash off all the dirt and nasty sludge. A strainer would probably work better.
Let drain for 15 minutes. The seed should have absorbed all the water it can, you don't want any extra water in the substrate.

Load your jars, ? pint jars work great. Leave room at the top for a layer of vermiculite. Pressure cook your jars for 1 hour at 15 psi. the time starts when the PC reads 15 psi.

I punch 4 holes in the lids of my jars and turn the rubber so it faces up.
Seal with aluminum foil?.now pressure cook them.

When the time is up?.turn off the heat?let your jars cool overnight.

Using the "oven-tek" remove your jars from the PC and put on oven rack.
Take your ready made syringes and..1 at a time?inoculate your jars. Wipe your needle between jars with a napkin containing alcohol. Shake the syringe between injections to distribute the spores evenly.

Once all your jars have been inoculated?store them at about 80-85 degrees until fully colonized.
The mycelia of the Pans is fine..and very fragile. Once they are fully colonized?let them sit for another week.


OK?the good part?..

Use a plastic tray?Mix all your spawn with zoodoo/compost or dung/compost. I use 8 jars to 5 pounds of that. If you use any store bought compost?strain out all the wood,?sticks..woodchips..etc.
You can nuke your dung/compost in a microwave for 10 minutes.
If you have obtained dung or compost from a garden?Pasteurize it.

Once you have done all this?cover your trays and let them sit for a couple days. Now?check out your trays?.do you see mycelium growing?
If so?what I do is?case them with a layer of the same dung/compost. Use about a ? inch only. Give them a GOOD misting and give them light.

Now your back to the regular Cubensis teks?.fan and mist as necessary.

This is an easy way to explain this?I have tried all kinds of substrates and compost mixes, but this will work real good for you.
I have posted my results..in pictures before?and I'm sure you have all seen them.

Fruiting temps are about 75 degrees. Some would argue?but the results show the flushes. The potency is fabulous.
Rye is also a great substrate..very good potency also.
The Pan Trops are fantastic..but I seem to find that the Cyans are more potent.

If anyone would like to see all the pics?from casing to full blown fruiting?you can email me(ralphster44@hushmail.com)?Ill send you a ZIP file of all the stages.
This is an excellent shroom!!
I have sent out a couple hundred prints?trops and cyans?so ?try this method and let me know the results.
I'm sure you will have success with this method?.




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