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Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum
    #13001018 - 08/04/10 11:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So like the title says I have a strong liqour smell coming from my bins.  I don't see any mold or visible contaminations.  I've been reading around the website on bacteria contams. and what they smell like.  It isn't garbage or any other kind of rotting smell, but rather what a bottle of spiced rum smells like.  I just know its alcohol fermentation going on for whatever reason. 

When I birthed the cakes they smelled like mushrooms do, dunked them in room temp water and I thought I sterilized the 12 qt tub's medium properly. Did everything I did with making the cakes as far as cleaniness goes.  Left the tubs covered with aluminum foil for 9 days inside a cleaned rubbermaid that has many holes drilled in it as to not let the air get stale.  Went to open them up to begin fruiting and to my surprise it smelled like a rum factory.

What should I do about this?  I still have 3 healthy looking cakes sealed in their jars. Should I toss the bins and start over or just let them fruit and see what happens?

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: Marco25]
    #13001044 - 08/04/10 11:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

BTW I dug down into the 12 qt medium and the mycellium growth is strong and has almost filled in all the gaps between where I crumbled it.  I'm not seeing any unusual moisture build up in the medium, nothing looks slimey, and there hasn't been any other visible contams present.

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: Marco25]
    #13001304 - 08/04/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Every time that has happened to me I have tossed it. I'm pretty sure it's a contamination. It seems to only happen to me when I dont give the colonizing substrate any or little GE. (gas exchange)


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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: moonwalker1]
    #13006280 - 08/05/10 09:54 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well I tossed the bins. I also found a small patch of cobweb growing in one of the corners.  I have absolutely the worst luck when it comes to mushroom growing.  I'm 0/2 tries so far.  Maybe 3rd time is the charm....  lets hope.
or.. maybe I'll just try fruiting the cakes by themselves.

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: Marco25]
    #13009002 - 08/05/10 07:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The alcohol guess is maybe not that bad. Perhaps you have candide (yeast) contam.
Also the thing about too few air exchange fits candide. Alcohol fermentation is anaerobic.

Edited by sof4r0ckeRs1984 (08/05/10 07:45 PM)

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #13012228 - 08/06/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the replies fellas.  I appreciate it greatly. 

I've been in contact with a long time commercial grower on another site and I've been recommended to stay away from landrace strains for the time being until I can get my methods down correctly.  Guess I'll be picking up something like B+ or another strain meant for indoor cultivation.

BTW this current grow was with Tasmanian, bought from ralph.

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: Marco25]
    #13013608 - 08/06/10 05:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

lol.
But remember that you can't blame the vendor. Have you checked your own tek? Like maybe you drank a glass of wine or some unfiltered beer or special cheese with wine yeast before working on your jars and didn't wash your hands. Whatever. You have to consider that too... Ok the possibility stays that somebody at ralph's did the same :lolsy:

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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: Marco25]
    #13014738 - 08/06/10 09:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Marco25 said:
Thanks for the replies fellas.  I appreciate it greatly. 

I've been in contact with a long time commercial grower on another site and I've been recommended to stay away from landrace strains for the time being until I can get my methods down correctly.  Guess I'll be picking up something like B+ or another strain meant for indoor cultivation.





You got fed a line of nonsense. Cube spores are cube spores. 

Besides, some of the best grows I ever did came from harvesting a wild cap and using those spores indoors.  Sterile procedure is the key to success.  A liquor smell indicates bacteria.  The most likely cause is your own breath or fingernails.  Also, failure to flame sterilize a needle will give it because the inside diameter of the syringe could be packed with bacteria.
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Re: Strong liqour smell - like barcardi rum [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13021855 - 08/08/10 01:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't blaming the vendor.  It was suggested that strains bred for indoor varieties have been selected for their contamination resistance.  It was completely my fault for the contam.

The cakes are 100% healthy.  Had nothing to do with my precedure in making the jars.  The contamination occured during the birthing / transferring to bulk substrate.

Edited by Marco25 (08/08/10 02:10 PM)

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