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In the footsteps of Orpheus.
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Does anyone believe it is possible to enter the world of the afterlife as in greek mythology and in shamanism ? :levitate:


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

Edited by Brainstem (08/02/10 12:53 PM)

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Re: In the footsteps of Opheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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DMT anybody? :awebig:

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Re: In the footsteps of Opheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Does anyone believe it is possible to enter the world of the afterlife as in greek mythology and in shamanism ? :levitate:



You bet it's possible but imo the chances against that being a reality are astronomical.:braindamage:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: In the footsteps of Opheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Therefore we first would have to know if an afterlife exists.
Then we would have to find some parallels of the afterlife to our fantasy/imagination/meditation/dream-state.
I'm not sure if those patterns can go hand in hand.

For sure is, that there are 'invisible' 'conscious'-patterns wafting all around us, which at least influence those who interact. If those patterns are internal or external, we're not really able to discern. But if this even has to do something with the afterlife, we can't know.
It seems it's an afterlife without the existence of the deceased themselves, as they stay in our memories or with their works they had done and so they stay in our existence :smile:
It might only exist within the living. And then, yes, we can enter these footsteps.

It even might, if it exists even be something completely different from which we have not the littlest idea either and never will be able to perceive some.

/ramble off


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Intriguing answer  bluecoyote, I just take it as a given that there is something after, maybe not a heaven or hell but being an engineering student, I see too much intelligent design in the universe and its qualities to regard it as an accident.  Imo the reason it may be inpercievble is because it can only be percieved by inverse consciousness, and I recently read an article where a quantum physicist described  the collapse of consciousness at the point of death and how through quantum entanglement it seems to exist seperately from the body, though maybe only briefly.


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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, I just take it as a given that there is something after


Sounds very well thought out. I am sure you will make a fine engineer.

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I see too much intelligent design in the universe


An excess of intelligent design seems out of balance.

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I recently read an article where a quantum physicist described  the collapse of consciousness at the point of death and how through quantum entanglement it seems to exist seperately from the body, though maybe only briefly.


I recently read an article on gullibility.


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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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yes I can be gullible and foolish, but in accepting this long before your mighty revelation (still no puctuation to represent sarcasm) I am always building and reforming my opinions.:confused:


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Inverse consciousness ? :smile: Now that sounds intriguing.
At first hand I would suggest we couldn't perceive something after death as we and our brain are dead and so no consciousness is there to receive, perceive or bring up anything anymore. But yes, maybe there's a state of mind which could be able to perceive something of something without itself hehe. But this always still would be within the realm of the livings :smile:
Science, it seems, seems far off to anything explaining or describing something like that, as far as I see.
I more would categorize it within some 'normal' pattern recognizing functions of our brains.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Does anyone believe it is possible to enter the world of the afterlife as in greek mythology and in shamanism ?


Yes, some people do. Great discussion. :thumbup:


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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Does anyone believe it is possible to enter the world of the afterlife as in greek mythology and in shamanism ? :levitate:


Yes, getting back is the hard part.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: QiGong]
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thats the trick is it not ? how far into the lions jaws can you stick your head without losing it ?

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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Brainstem said:
Does anyone believe it is possible to enter the world of the afterlife as in greek mythology and in shamanism ? :levitate:


'world of the afterlife' - no


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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: andrewss]
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Is that just a dig at my wording or the concept of alternate realities ?

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Inverse consciousness isn't an adequate description, it just indicates a state of mind with an opposite polarization to waking consciousness. It is near impossible to perceive because in that state we would have no perception. In that state instead of witnessing/contemplating/remembering/acting, we would be emanating spontaneously and forgetting passively (does that make sense ?).

This is my main view of reality (at the min)...

Future: An ever advancing infinity of possible experience who's source seems elusive.

Present: The point at which we witness the infinite potential unfold and become finite, also elusive.

Past: The irredeemable accumulation of spent potential and finite experience. evidence of the past exists everywhere, whether it be in the skeletons and fossils of dead organisms, in the light that we see when we perceive a far off star that has taken an immense period of time to reach our ocular nerve or just in our memory (although memory can be deceptive and biased).

IMHO the inverse consciousness would exist at a point where the accumulation of spent potential starts to unravel, freeing energy as it does so and once completely uncoiled a new cycle of unfolding its potential would resume. I LOVE SLINKY'S:heart:


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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A simple diagram to illustrate my idea.:psychsplit:


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: Brainstem]
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You certainly got the 'simple' part correct.


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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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yep,


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The arrogant cat stalks the humble mouse, the self important dog chases away the cat and is in turn unable to stand it's ground against the Proud lion. Then the lion is almost trampled underfoot of the enlightened elephant, who surprisingly and paradoxically yields to the humble mouse.

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Re: In the footsteps of Orpheus. [Re: I AM SWIM]
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WTF? :evil:

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